Everlast 210EXT review and pictures

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Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop

I think the 250ex is the best tig welder you can buy , have use helium with it also some times when welding thick aluminum head puts out some real heat . had my Denise my friend stop by at the shop he owns a welding shop and he used my 250 to see how it welds , he liked it better than his miller

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Miller makes a lot of different welders... Which one ?

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Originally Posted by zoama585

So how long before Jody gets the videos up ? :D

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Originally Posted by Titan winch

Now you are just speculating on this Zoama and this is how rumours get started , first one post and then someone else posts up and the next thing you know the Queen even had a hand in working on it.

Actually Oleg is discussing possibly seeing if Todd might be possibly agree to doing some Videos for us.

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This machine looks familiar... could it be ??? Attachment 6290

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEHY0KSfno

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Originally Posted by zoama585

This machine looks familiar... could it be ??? Attachment 6290

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I dunno, I see 3 Hobarts, a Miller and something on the left that might have green sides. The panel almost looks right, but I'm just not getting a clear enough view. The torch is not the same as Todd's either.

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Originally Posted by 5440

Yes I thought those specs on the Can site were a little on the high side. The 210EXT looks like a decent machine but so far I'm content with my 250EX for now.

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We are having a bit of a problem with the Web people and getting the conversion from Metric to imperial . In fact if you have a look now you will see it is showing 1/16" max weld.
I would just as soon leave this blank for now as i will be working on the Owners Manual at the factory in a couple of weeks .

And Zoama there you go again with the Speculating hmmm.

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Originally Posted by Titan winch

And Zoama there you go again with the Speculating hmmm.

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Sherlock Holmes had a picture of me on his wall. Attachment 6297

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Originally Posted by Titan winch

We are having a bit of a problem with the Web people and getting the conversion from Metric to imperial.

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You can send me the specs, and I'll help you do the conversion ;)
I'd rather the metric specs anyway.

Just an update on the 210ext, there was a very small glitch in the programming due to our 60hz power ( this was not found or diagnosed by me ), They shipped another welder with the modified programming and it has been working great. I did switch to a 17 torch, just because I like the regular round handled torches, but over all, it's been a good welder.

You get used to these digital welders real fast, I went to our other shop and was using the 250EX that we have there, and even though its a great welder, it felt strange to not have digital settings.

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Originally Posted by zoama585

This machine looks familiar... could it be ??? Attachment 6290

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEHY0KSfno

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James , you're right :)

This clip was done by WeldingTipsAndTricks using our new 210EXT model

More videos to come .. will go head to head with Lincoln Invertec V205-T (retail 3200$ with TIG package )

.. Stay tuned !!!

Now I'm no Sherlock Holmes, but how is it that Zoama can edit Oleg's posts?? (I'm gonna stay on his good side, seeing that...) one of them must be Harry Houdini. :O

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Originally Posted by Jake98

Now I'm no Sherlock Holmes, but how is it that Zoama can edit Oleg's posts?? (I'm gonna stay on his good side, seeing that...) one of them must be Harry Houdini. :O

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Oleg is a very busy man so in the short time he had to post, he mistakenly called me John. I help him out as one of the moderators of this forum. I'm not an employee of Everlast. ;)

Got it Harry..

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Originally Posted by Oleg

Srp

we will update the site in a week with all specs

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Ummmm......still waiting on those specs..... Anytime soon for the updated site? :)

Duncan has completed the manual...It's loaded to the site. It should have all the specs, plus we have put a tutorial video of it up on youtube, that covers all the specs, step by step.

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Originally Posted by performance

Duncan has completed the manual...It's loaded to the site. It should have all the specs, plus we have put a tutorial video of it up on youtube, that covers all the specs, step by step.

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I reviewed the manual. Am I missing the specs such as pulse, frequency, balance, etc. the general features specs? I saw the general specs such as volts, amps, duty cycle, etc. but not the features. Am I missing these? :)

Watch the video, because it goes over all of that.

Thanks Mark-I'll watch it again. Good Video!
I was hoping the specs would be in writing or in a chart so I could do a side by side comparison to the other Everlast models on my wish list.
No problem, I'll take another look at it.

Are you still doing pre-sales with a discount on the 210 EXT?

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Originally Posted by todmorg

Just an update on the 210ext, there was a very small glitch in the programming due to our 60hz power ( this was not found or diagnosed by me ), They shipped another welder with the modified programming and it has been working great. I did switch to a 17 torch, just because I like the regular round handled torches, but over all, it's been a good welder.

You get used to these digital welders real fast, I went to our other shop and was using the 250EX that we have there, and even though its a great welder, it felt strange to not have digital settings.

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So are all the 210 EXTs in shipment, etc. correct for 60 HZ?
Todd, overall how do you like this welder compared to the 250 EX? I guess what I'm asking if the cost were not an object would you do the digital 210 EXT or would you go with a comparable amp DX/EX/LX machine such as the 200 DX OR 225 LX? I'm asking you since you're one of the few that has used the 210 EXT plus knows the "classic" non-digital versions. I have no problems with the digital control vs. knobs. Thanks!
Thanks...

Any idea when this is going to be added to the US site?

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Originally Posted by 2tailfins

Any idea when this is going to be added to the US site?

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should be in few days

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Originally Posted by Oleg

should be in few days

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IF the webmasters will speed it up, it will be done tonight I hope.
But if they don't...and make any mistakes...well...

The units are just around the corner though.

So there has not been too much feed back on the 210 EXT. How has the machine been working for thes with the machine?

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Originally Posted by DVA

So there has not been too much feed back on the 210 EXT. How has the machine been working for thes with the machine?

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I have one, 210EXT (a couple months now). No complaints at all. You have a direct question about the unit?

Jody has run one for quite a while now, before they were available. He has put up some new videos about it and its performance capability.

Although somewhat dated response, the LEDs on the videos are distorted due to the camera. Also, more visable when looking straight on at them. Here are a couple of pics off my phone, the flare is due to the camera, they look fine in real life. (Disregard the slight glow of the upslope and start amp indicators, it is a problem with this particular machine.

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So does the production 210EXT 's front bezel (not the control panel area but lower down) look like the image on the 210EXT product page, or does it look Todd's and Jody's machines? If Big Paulie's picture went a little lower, I'd have my answer. I do like the looks of the machine on the product page.

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Originally Posted by JimMinKent

So does the production 210EXT 's front bezel (not the control panel area but lower down) look like the image on the 210EXT product page, or does it look Todd's and Jody's machines? If Big Paulie's picture went a little lower, I'd have my answer. I do like the looks of the machine on the product page.

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It's the production unit.

Mark, thanks but your answer is not clear. I'll ask this a different way, "if I buy a new 210EXT, what will it look like?". The two possible answers are "Like Todd and Jody's." OR "Like the 210EXT Product page." No fair answering with "Yes".

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Originally Posted by JimMinKent

Mark, thanks but your answer is not clear. I'll ask this a different way, "if I buy a new 210EXT, what will it look like?". The two possible answers are "Like Todd and Jody's." OR "Like the 210EXT Product page." No fair answering with "Yes".

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The product page picture is the production unit and is the one Paulie appears to have

here you go. Notice the empty wine bottle used for size comparison. (ok, maybe it was used for something else earlier).

Seriously, although this one has an issue that will be replaced, I am able to navigate/play with the menus, and they are quite intuitive and usable.

My deciding points were:

Most of my aluminum TIG work will be thin, so the 1/4" capacity is not an issue. I have a TIG and Spoolgun for big stuff, it is not like I will be TIG welding a trailer.

Price point was the same as the 225LX and required cooler, or almost the same as the 250EX and Cooler.

I can tell from the videos, how much noise the 250EX makes, and this is a fraction. (Tradeoff is 40% vs 100% duty cycle at 200amps). This box is seriously quiet.

I wanted the wave form and advanced pulse for thin aluminum (radiators, sheet metal, etc).

210EXT has solid state HF vs, mechanical point gap as in the 200-250 series.

at 40lbs and 30amp circuit, is a little more practical for portability.

If I were looking for an industrial strength tool, for professional or heavy duty, I would have gone with the 250EX, but I am using it more as a hobbiest, or fabricating for cars, motorcycles, etc.





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Thanks for the info men. This is actually a little different than either of the other two cases. Looks good. Can't wait to see the final 255EXT to complete the digital lineup :)

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Originally Posted by JimMinKent

Thanks for the info men. This is actually a little different than either of the other two cases. Looks good. Can't wait to see the final 255EXT to complete the digital lineup :)

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No, its the same design. They added an extra vent in the final production phase. Everything else is the same.

Ah Ha! Indeed it IS the same... That extra vent is a good decision, and it still looks great. Thanks for the update.

I am amazed how much power there is in such a small package. (No not referring to the wine bottle... if it were 151 that would be another story...)

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Originally Posted by performance

No, its the same design. They added an extra vent in the final production phase. Everything else is the same.

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It's not hard to understand the confusion when a lot of the pictures on the website have serious aspect ratio problems, like this one on the 210EXT main page.

http://www.everlastgenerators.com/pr...-210-EXT_1.jpg

I agree. When I see that I think it is the size of a lunch box or old tool box.

I really like the size and functions this unit has. Jody's video using this welder shows how smooth it is, plus how convenient all those adjustments can be for specialty projects and repairs. For some reason, I overlooked this 210EXT when I was shopping for a TIG welder...probably due to it being out of my price range. It looks quite portable, yet it still has over 200 amps of capability!

yeah, I really like it. You can't imagine how quiet it is. Neat thing about the programming, is that pulse amps (low) and hotstart/arcforce are all programmed as a percentage of the welding amps, so you can program a set in memory for a certain thickness of metal, and if you need to crank up/down the power to compensate for something thicker or thinner, you just have to adjust the welding amps, and most of the other parameters are proportionally adjusted by the program. Duty cycle is lower than the EX models, but if I was going to build an aluminum trailer, I would use my MIG and Spoolgun anyway. this unit duty cycle is 100% at 100amps, and that is where I do most of my work (30-100 amps). only possible improvement would be 120/240 dual power capable. this was the only model with wave form vaiations (Sine, Square, and soft square. Also, the pulsing lets you mix DC and AC, to minimze heat affected zone.

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Originally Posted by Big Paulie

here you go. Notice the empty wine bottle used for size comparison. (ok, maybe it was used for something else earlier).

Seriously, although this one has an issue that will be replaced, I am able to navigate/play with the menus, and they are quite intuitive and usable.

My deciding points were:

Most of my aluminum TIG work will be thin, so the 1/4" capacity is not an issue. I have a TIG and Spoolgun for big stuff, it is not like I will be TIG welding a trailer.

Price point was the same as the 225LX and required cooler, or almost the same as the 250EX and Cooler.

I can tell from the videos, how much noise the 250EX makes, and this is a fraction. (Tradeoff is 40% vs 100% duty cycle at 200amps). This box is seriously quiet.

I wanted the wave form and advanced pulse for thin aluminum (radiators, sheet metal, etc).

210EXT has solid state HF vs, mechanical point gap as in the 200-250 series.

at 40lbs and 30amp circuit, is a little more practical for portability.

If I were looking for an industrial strength tool, for professional or heavy duty, I would have gone with the 250EX, but I am using it more as a hobbiest, or fabricating for cars, motorcycles, etc.





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I am surprised we do not here more about the 210 EXT. This machine looks good with a lot of features. Duty cycle is a little lower than other Everlast equipment, but still comparable to the miller 200 amp AC/DC machine.

Paulie, since I can't find a whole lot of info. How low of amps does this thing strike an arc with? I'm starting to build bike frame and some of the tubing is .35" thick so low end is super important. Have you ever used a Dynasty and can you compare arc characteristics? I heard you can dial down the start amps to 10 or so...which is fine as long as it fires up fast and holds really a steady arc so I can start moving. I just received a 250ex in the mail that had some shipping damage and going to send it back. Me and Oleg talked about the 210ext and I think it is a good idea. I would love to have a machine that can weld razor blades, but still have the power to weld 1/4 aluminum. All while having a super stable arc. One last question....how does the solid state capacitor ignition compare to the points?......sorry for all the questions thanks - RJ

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