Thanks for the replies. I will not be doing any CNC work with the plasma. I was unsure about the blowback start since the PP50 seems to be your only machine with it all others being HF start. From reading about these units they both seem good, how about some of you guys with the PP50 do you wish you would have bought a PP60. I have been retired for 10 years now and only do this as a hobby ( read as; I make no money doing it) and I am just getting tired of cutting & grinding odd shapes with the 4-1/2" grinders. I did purchase a Milwaukee 14" dry cut saw so I should be ok with cutting angle and stuff. Bottom line is I only want to buy a plasma cutter once and be happy with what I get. If I would be better off with the PP60 I am ok with the difference in price. Thanks Scooter