Band saw, cut-off saw, or plasma cutter

[Hilltopper46]

Understanding that the three different cutting tools are in different price ranges, which one of the three would you put your dollars toward if you were starting from scratch?

[Rugar]

What kind and shape of material will you be working with the most?

[Ram48]

Understanding that the three different cutting tools are in different price ranges, which one of the three would you put your dollars toward if you were starting from scratch?

It depends on what type of work you are doing. I have all three well four actually counting a horizontal and vertical bandsaw. I can tell you not to bother with an abrasive cutoff saw I have 14 inch modle and used it twice, It now gathers dust on the shelf.
My first choice was a horizontal band saw I have a jet 5x7 but the HF 4x6 would dbe a decent choice they both need some attention to cut realy square but once set up and with a good quaility blade can cut well I have cut slices under 1/16 with mine. It also served me well as a vertical bandsaw once I built a better table for it.
I have used my plasma cutter some but suprisingly not as much as I thought I would. But when I used it it sure did the job and was about the only tool for the job, I would not want to be with out a plasma in my tool kit.
So if you are just ste=arting out and according to what type of work you will do. I play with cars both old and racecars and do some fabrication and repair work like most of us on here I would imagine. My vote is for a horizontal / vertical band saw then a plasma cutter and forget about the cutoff saw. I am also thinking of adding a metal cutting skill saw to my collection. Oh another option according to what type of material you work aith would be a deep throught portable band saw.
Hope this mini rant helps
Ray

[Scooter]

Tony, each has it place depending on what you are planning on doing. band saws good for almost any size or shape that will fit into it, cut-off saw if you are talking abrasive wheel type are slow, most do not cut real straight and are dirty ( I have one in the corner) Dry cut chop saws with carbide tipped saw blades cut fast and accurate, with very little cleanup. I just got a Milwaukee and that will be my go to saw (but you need a special blade to cut non-ferrous metal). plasma cutters are good for sheet or none straight cutting, but I would much rather use a saw for rounds, box tubing, angle, channel and such. Not that you can not cut angle and stuff with the plasma, it is just more cleanup for a perfect job. And don't leave out the 4-1/2" grinders with cut off wheels I would be lost without these. So it really depends on the type of jobs you have planned to start with, and you will find yourself expanding your tool collection from there. Scott

[DaveO]

Ram48, you mention a metal-cutting skilsaw. Are you talking about an abrasive disc swapped in to your circular saw? I bought a HF chop saw for a particular project, and realized I could have bought a circ saw abrasive for about $4.

[Ram48]

Ram48, you mention a metal-cutting skilsaw. Are you talking about an abrasive disc swapped in to your circular saw? I bought a HF chop saw for a particular project, and realized I could have bought a circ saw abrasive for about $4.

Dave I am talking about a Milwaukee or evolution saw that is designed to cut metal like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdKN18KOMY4
Or an evolution saw which is similar. like this http://www.evolutiononlineshop.com/E...age_Saws~x.cfm
Hope that helps
Ray

[Hilltopper46]

What kind and shape of material will you be working with the most?

That's a really good question - the projects I'm thinking about at the moment all require some sort of tubing, either square or round of about 1 inch to 1-1/2 inch size. Of ocurse, I also have a piece of 3/4 inch plate on the workbecnh that needs rounding (or at least have the corners taken off) before I put it on the metal lathe.

[geezer]

Understanding that the three different cutting tools are in different price ranges, which one of the three would you put your dollars toward if you were starting from scratch?

Pretty easy to answer that one, Chop saw, then bandsaw then plasma. the chop saw will handle most cuts on angle or channel or tube, the bandsaw is best on solid bar that needs precise cuts for a lathe or mill and the plasma is best for plate cutting. The chop saw is the cheapest then bandsaw and then plasma.

eventually you will need all three to have a complete shop.

[Rugar]

That's a really good question - the projects I'm thinking about at the moment all require some sort of tubing, either square or round of about 1 inch to 1-1/2 inch size. Of ocurse, I also have a piece of 3/4 inch plate on the workbecnh that needs rounding (or at least have the corners taken off) before I put it on the metal lathe.

Then it sounds like a chop saw would serve you best as starters. But a chop saw wont do a thing for you on your plate. For that you will need a plasma or a cutting torch. I have a chop saw and a plasma cutter and mostly work with round and square tube myself, doing roll cage work, building trailers, and ornamental stuff. My chop saw is used 99% of the time for cutting material. A band saw will make a cleaner cut, but is way to slow for my needs. A chop saw will make a straight enough cut if you don't force the blade though the material. A framing square and a MIG welder take care of the rest.

[A/C Guy]

Understanding that the three different cutting tools are in different price ranges, which one of the three would you put your dollars toward if you were starting from scratch?

I have the cold cut saw, plasma, vertical bandsaw (2), and sawZall (2).

For basic cutting of new 20' material to build things, cut off saw/ cold cut saw.
I use it 10 times more than the others combined.

For salvage and repair, the plasma and sawZalls get the most use.

For custom, intricate, work, you can't beat a vertical band saw.
The sawZalls will do it, just not as clean or neat.

For speed and very rough cutting, the plasma wins.
Anything that is hand cut with a plasma will require a fair amount of clean up.

If I could only have one tool, it would be the sawZall. It is the most versatile.

If I was only concerned with cutting 20' pieces for building projects, I would choose the cold saw.

I almost bought the Evo saw. But after seeing one grenade due to a design flaw in their blade guard, I quickly scratched them off the list.

I borrowed a friend's DeWalt for a weekend. I made over 120 cuts with it. I did not like the fence and the stamped base.

I bought the 12" Makita from Amazon. It comes with a much better blade than the Evo. It has a cast base and a really nice fence. It has quick adjustment on the clamp; neither Evo nor DeWalt have that. I got tired of cranking that stupid DeWalt crank all day. The Makita quick adjust is a real time saver. If you add the $100 cost of a real blade to the Evo, it is not a great bargain. Their standard blade is no where near as good as the Makita blade.

Also, I saw an Evo saw after the blade guard fell into the blade. The saw was ruined. The design flaw is the way they attach the linkage allows the screw to vibrate loose. The female threads are in material that is too soft and thin for permanent attachment. Eventually, the screw will vibrate loose as it did TWICE to the guy whose saw exploded on him.

[Wrenchtamer]

I personally do not have the luxury of a chop saw or a vertical band saw. Not yet anyway. I had an abrasive chop saw a few years ago, and it too just collected dust. I make pretty much all of my cuts now with a portable band saw. If I am just chopping down material to a workable size,or reducing a large object to small usable pieces I will use the sawzall. And yes, hand grinders with cut off wheels are not in short supply either. I use the plasma when I need to cut an odd contour that I cannot duplicate practically with a cutting tool. I use a variable speed jigsaw to cut sheet and diamondplate and stuff. Not to hijack the thread, but have any of you guys ever seen or used this "dual saw" I have seen on television? here is a link to it. https://www.newdualsawquadforce.com/...?rtag=dualsaw& I am seriously thinking about buying one of these. What do yall think?

[Jason]

Usually I have access to a plasma cutter, chop saw, 4.5" grinder and sawzall. I use them all and it really just depends on what I am cutting and what will work best.

[ducksface]

My portable bandsaw is the thing I use the most. The secret; build yourself [or buy] a table top adapter that makes it into a bench mount bandsaw. It doesn't cut much slower than my dry chop-saw, and makes no mess doing it. No sparks, no burnt computer monitor 30 feet away, it's quiet, it's friendly, it doesn't turn at 10,000rpm. It's small, lightweight and travels well.

The key, once again, is a bench top table saw adapter so you can get those 1/16th inch cuts.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Milwaukee-48-08-...item53e570fa8e

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

portable bandsaws are always on sale at HF, and I think the housings are all but universal....

Air-powered nibblers are great and clean for sheet metal. Far Far superior to similar size shears.
My plasma cutter is on the way for use on body panels and sheet metal and such.
My sawzall does almost as much damage as it does good. Rough cuts are great and quick, not good for much else in fabrication [to me, but I am a vast wasteland of taltentlessness....]

[Zoomie]

I like my Evo Rage II saw for what it is. I hadn't heard of anyone having any issues with these other than blade life. Mine has worked well for well over 100 cuts (so far) with nary a problem and still going strong! I also have a HF bandsaw that I paid $150 bucks for and have used it alot. It's like most HF stuff though, more of a kit than anything but can get you by. Get a couple of good Amercan made blades and throw the one on the bandsaw in the garbage. Also expect to spend a little time getting the drive wheels turning squarely to each other (co-planar!?) Then they do just fine.

[Jason]

hmmm I may have to look into this bandsaw idea. It would be nice to have a vertical bandsaw to use. A HF bandsaw and table from ebay seems like a cheap way to get one.

[Zoomie]

Jason
My little old HF saw came with a small vertical table that you screw on so it'll do duty as a vertical or horizontal saw. I bought a small miter type fence at sears that fit the slot on the HF table that works pretty darned good...

[A/C Guy]

Not to hijack the thread, but have any of you guys ever seen or used this "dual saw" I have seen on television? here is a link to it. https://www.newdualsawquadforce.com/...?rtag=dualsaw& I am seriously thinking about buying one of these. What do yall think?

I saw that infomercial a few times. I read on another forum that Sears carries it (or a competing version of it). I would buy it at Sears since the warranty would actually be valid.

[ducksface]

I hate to bother you over something as silly as a link, but if you can get me the part number for the HF handheld bandsaw, I'll try to get the part numbers for the tables you said came with it, and I'll post them up with costs and such. I may have been unclear; by portable I meant handheld....

[yotarover]

get all 3 if you can afford it. i use the band for precise cuts. the chop for crappy metal and dont got a plasma yet i need one

[Oxide00]

Probably the band saw due to the accuracy of cuts. Depends on what you are doing though.