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    Default PowerPlasma vs SuperCut 50

    Is the main difference the euro-torch connection and machine control capability with the PowerPlasma and the price?

    Thurmond
    Miller Bobcat 3 Phase,
    Miller Suitcase X-Treme 12VS wire feeder for the Bobcat with M-25 300A .045" gun / Bernard 400A 5/64" wire mig gun .
    26 series gas cooled TIG torch, setup for quick connect to Bobcat.
    17 series gas cooled Tig Torch for Low Amp Solar Tig (Direct Solar Panel Powered Tig welding)
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    No.
    Mosfet=supercut
    IGBT= PowerPlasma
    HF=Supercut
    Blowback start= PowerPlasma 50

    Pilot arc only on SC 50P.
    Continuous pilot arc on PP50.

    No under pressure shut down on SC
    Underpressure shut down on PP.

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    what is Underpressure shut down
    sold my miller mig
    got a PT250EX
    saving up for a plasma cutter

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    When the air pressure falls below the minimum required pressure needed to operate, the unit shuts down.

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    It is a very nice feature if you forget to plug the air line up, which I am sure many people do. Less wear and tear on the unit by it not firing the inverter.
    Mike R.
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    From a performance point of view with the two units it is probably easier to tell you my settings for testing each of the units.
    I keep the same air pressure on both units ( 60 psi)
    PowerPlasma 50 1/4" cut 27 amps
    Supercut 50 1/4" cut 35 amps
    Powerplasma 50 3/8" cut 42 amps
    Supercut 50 3/8" cut 48 amps
    These can of course be played with for the optimum cutting Quality but i use these numbers to get a close comparison between the two units for decent cuts.
    As you can see The Power Plasma 50 does it with less amps.
    This is consistant between the two models as i do this practically every day when checking units before sending out to Customers .
    The two sizes i use are for practical purposes what most people tell me they are looking for, with the majority telling me mostly 1/4" thick with occasional 3/8-1/2"
    I still see a difference in the cut Quality between the two units ,although not as much with the 1/4" as opposed to the 3/8".

    Having said this ,I feel the difference between the 2 units will be far more apparent ( i know it will from testing at the Factory )Between the two units with the new Better quality torch on the PowerPlasma 50 units.
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    Well it looks like I am the proud owner to be of a SuperCut 50P . The auction ended on e-bay and I had high bid . I am just waiting on the invoice now.

    Thurmond
    Last edited by Tritium; 04-06-2011 at 02:36 AM.
    Miller Bobcat 3 Phase,
    Miller Suitcase X-Treme 12VS wire feeder for the Bobcat with M-25 300A .045" gun / Bernard 400A 5/64" wire mig gun .
    26 series gas cooled TIG torch, setup for quick connect to Bobcat.
    17 series gas cooled Tig Torch for Low Amp Solar Tig (Direct Solar Panel Powered Tig welding)
    Hobart Handler 187 Mig / Fluxcore
    EVERLAST PowerUltra 205P
    EVERLAST PowerTig 250 EXT 2013 Model

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    Katya tells me that my new SuperCut should ship today or tomorrow. I can hardly wait. I already have a 50A plug to fit my Bobcat waiting to be wired.

    Thurmond
    Miller Bobcat 3 Phase,
    Miller Suitcase X-Treme 12VS wire feeder for the Bobcat with M-25 300A .045" gun / Bernard 400A 5/64" wire mig gun .
    26 series gas cooled TIG torch, setup for quick connect to Bobcat.
    17 series gas cooled Tig Torch for Low Amp Solar Tig (Direct Solar Panel Powered Tig welding)
    Hobart Handler 187 Mig / Fluxcore
    EVERLAST PowerUltra 205P
    EVERLAST PowerTig 250 EXT 2013 Model

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    i've noticed some sellers on ebay selling the everlast plasma's for as low at 50$ just wondering how well these units are working and if their worth grabbing
    Aaron

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    No one is selling them for 50.00, not new at least. It might be a starting bid or something, but when one costs us many times that much to build, ship, and sell, I doubt it is going below cost. The cheapest ones are the supercuts. Not my favorite machines. We sell a lot of them though. The PowerPlasma line is where its at.

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