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    Attachment 1468So anybody got some easy rules for following the size of the cup? Does it matter if I have an oversized cup on? I bought this half inch cup and so far I like it. I had intended to use it for messing around with titanium. I think its about half inch. Whatever a number 12 is? So I was more curious on wether or not does it matter if you over shoot on the size of your cup? We are talking tig welders here, lol. I attached the cup to show you. The one next to it is the largest that came with the 250. Makes it look tiny.
    Frank

    I have a 250 EX welder and several other machines and equipment to allow for small scale manufacturing and prototyping of inventions

    I am located in Oregon about 20 minutes west of Portland

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    Frank,

    No harm in going to a larger cup except that it restricts your view a bit and would be harder to get into tight spots. You would probably need to increase the gas flow. I use an oversized one for stainless work.

    Your number 12 cup would be 12/16 of an inch. In other words that cup has a 3/4 inch hole in it.

    Check out the miller site for rules of thumb but what I’ve seen is this:

    Cup size (in 16ths): 3 to 4 times the electrode diameter (so for 1/16 tungsten use a #4, 3/32 tungsten use a #5 or #6 cup, and so on).

    Tungsten sickout: No more than the cup diameter.

    Gas flow: Same litres/min as cup size.

    Post flow: 1 second per 10amps of current.

    Chris
    Brisbane Australia.

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    Hi Frank,

    Here is a video using a large size cup for titanium even though the title indicates stainless: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...stainless.html

    Thurmond
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