Wirelless foot pedal

[geezer]

Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.

[dirtyfarmer]

Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.

How 'bout a "wireless" TIG torch? Talk about the ultimate in flexibility! Also think "Bio-feedback" amperage control, for those got-to-be-perfect welds! (steep learning curve though)

[GUNNER]

For a bunch of guys that bad mouth Miller at every chance you sure do want to copy everything they innovate.. First the different wave forms and now the wireless foot control..... That 600 dollar foot control cost more than all but the highest end Everlast machines !! LOL !!! Ever thought about buying the Dynasty machine and calling it a day?

[Zmechanic]

Oddly enough, it would appear Miller does not own the patent for it

http://www.google.com/patents?id=rJf...turing&f=false

It's a cool idea, but fighting the electrical interference might be very difficult.

[Oleg]

Oddly enough, it would appear Miller does not own the patent for it

http://www.google.com/patents?id=rJf...turing&f=false

It's a cool idea, but fighting the electrical interference might be very difficult.

i know a story behind the pedal ... very interesting ..

Guy who invented the pedal pitched to Miller and Lincoln. mistake that he did that he DIDNT patent the pedal on time.
Lincoln got the deal and now suing Miller. Miller ripped off that guy basically

[Zmechanic]

i know a story behind the pedal ... very interesting ..

Guy who invented the pedal pitched to Miller and Lincoln. mistake that he did that he DIDNT patent the pedal on time.
Lincoln got the deal and now suing Miller. Miller ripped off that guy basically

Ahhhhh. Interesting. I only searched for miller patents. Oddly enough, that patent even mentions connecting it to a miller welder.
I'd be curious to know the story. Haha.

Patents are a tricky business. My mentor/senior engineer has a patent on a control system for an electrical test instrument (Keithley SMU). One time an IC rep was pitching an all-in-one type IC to function much like an SMU. Upon hearing this "novel" approach, he just went silent for a second and responded with "Yeah, I know the idea behind that. I have a patent for it.". Stuff like that happens ALL the time in the electronics world especially since it's very hard to see "under the hood" on electronic devices like you can for mechanical ones. Funny coincidence, he co-oped back at Lincoln back when he was in college.

The patents that will kick your butt are the abstract ones that cover a huge range of things. From what I saw, that wireless pedal patent is pretty abstract, which stinks for people trying to replicate the idea.

I found one patent for Lincoln, which was issued for 2010. The one I dug up not related to either was issued in 2008 I think..

[GUNNER]

i know a story behind the pedal ... very interesting ..

Guy who invented the pedal pitched to Miller and Lincoln. mistake that he did that he DIDNT patent the pedal on time.
Lincoln got the deal and now suing Miller. Miller ripped off that guy basically

Go figure...... Big business stealing food right out of the mouth of someone that is truly deserving. I was bidding on one on eBay that was cheap until the last few minutes of the auction and I wasn't willing to go past my set price for it because I don't need it I just wanted it because I like toys like every other man I know. Anyhow when I was talking to my Miller sales man he told me that he had sold only a few and out of them no one was 100% satisfied with it's performance compared to the wired unit.. Maybe it's more refined now who knows but the only way I'll ever have one will be finding it dirt cheap and buying it that way.. It's not worth 600 of my money.. I would much rather try that CK torch mounted amp control and a nice new 300 amp CK torch that uses WP20 parts!! That rocks !! I'm impressed with the CK products over the Weldcraft industry standard! I own all weldcraft and once more I'll admit being late to the dance on this.. CK has the Weldcraft product covered with ease! Like I have said many times there's always a better mouse trap out there if you look hard enough for it. I'm old with an ill temper and short fuse when it comes to someone arguing about things I have devoted my life to being the best I can be at. Oleg has told me of a German company that produces the finest welders made in the world.. DO I HAVE ONE ? NO!! Would I like one? You bet.... All I had to hear was German and I didn't need to hear anymore! They make the finest of EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD !!! Best guns,Knifes,Cars,Motorcycles, Precision Machining equipment, and I'm sure welders if they decide to build one.. That Hitler guy was right about at least one of his ideas... They really are a superior race of people and seem to have always been.. American wouldn't be where it is today without German help! I have my personal favorites but I'm not blind that there's always something better..

[Cippee]

Yes that is the name hell yes. Thanks.

[charger891]

realistically what purpose would you use a wireless pedal have?? I`ve done lost of vehicle body repair and most of the time a pedal is just in the way, stationary welding bench its just as easy having a wired pedal, it would drive the price of these welders way up.

[todmorg]

realistically what purpose would you use a wireless pedal have?? I`ve done lost of vehicle body repair and most of the time a pedal is just in the way, stationary welding bench its just as easy having a wired pedal, it would drive the price of these welders way up.

I don't think I would use a wireless much either, it may be handy at times, but I'm tired of things with batteries going dead.

[dyethor]

A wireless would be cool if you could also plug a cable into it, so it could be either wireless or corded. Also when it was plugged in it would charge the battery. That would be the best of both.

[GUNNER]

Like someone else posted I would be all about a wireless torch !! I don't care who invents it I'll be impressed!

[Ram48]

Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.

Geezer
We think a lot alike.
Most all of my tools were purchased using that very same line of thought.
and I would also get the wireless foot pedal just because its cool.

[performance]

Guys,
Its heavily patent protected. Won't be around for a while. A lot has to do with radio frequencies, and surrounding noise filtering.

[dirtyfarmer]

OK, there is no reality to the "wireless" TIG torch idea, but I think the "bio-feedback" amperage control has potential. It's probably not even patented. Yet!

[Cippee]

I see a 40% for the lincoln vs 60% for the miller but the lincoln is 50 lb and the miller is almost 300lb. Larger units can have larger heat sinks. I would like to see you move that around with you everyday. You must have issues I see everyone else here talking and getting advice from each other. Every post you put talking crap or comparing this to that. You just assume I must be jealous of you. I'm a humble person but I am not jealous of you or anything you have. If you would like to pull out the tape measures and start we can. I could afford to my a miller but what if I couldn't afford to buy one. What if someone else couldn't afford to buy one who are you to sit there and say they must be jealous of you. I'm glad you are happy with your miller and I am happy with my unit. So if you want to assume I'm jealous of you are wrong. I've been very blessed and don't need for anything.

[GUNNER]

I'm sure they do..... Jealousy is a very ugly trait. You don't want a Miller but you drool over every innovation they have? As for Lincoln's high end machines they must so good that no one ever speaks of them? ANYWHERE ....

You talking about this POS? Better read those duty cycles and rethink your last statement .... Had it been the best machine on the market I would have bought one rest assured..
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...roduct=K2916-1


Kinda like the guy with a ford bad mouthing the guy down the street with a Ferrari, saying his neighbors Escort can eat it for lunch... Just wait till my big brother get home he'll tell you... LOL

Comparing a welder to a Miller is as common as comparing every other tire to a Michelin ! It's done everyday because when you are the bast everyone is gunning for you..

[Cippee]

I have never bad mouthed miller but since you said something lincoln's high end inverters would take a dynasty and eat it alive. If I was going to spend over $6000 or so it wouldn't be a miller.

[dynasim]

An IR device would not have the frequency issues(it would have to be encoded like a car door opener). The ir sensor could have multiple locations for robustness.

Chris

[ogorir]

what is the foot pedal sending back to the machine? is it just a pot in a box, or is the logic in the footpedal, too?

if it's just a pot, it wouldn't be a big deal to use PWM to control a LED->LDR combo on the machine end and a pair of transmitters. you could do bluetooth, xbee, or 433mhz serial. it'd probably cost around $150+ programming time. in the long run, I thought it was probably a better idea to adapt the miller than to build my own. I'm not great at soldering SMD components (little tiny circuit board parts) and the cost of breakout boards is high.

if someone is really interested, I can devote some more time to working out the details.


Edit:
y'know, now that I think about it, you might be able to hack and use a wireless mouse, which would take the cost down a bunch.