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    Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
    I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
    I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.
    How 'bout a "wireless" TIG torch? Talk about the ultimate in flexibility! Also think "Bio-feedback" amperage control, for those got-to-be-perfect welds! (steep learning curve though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    Question is Everlast gonna bring out a wireless foot pedal similar to millers.
    I don't need one, but I want one, which usually leads to me buying one, just to say I have one.
    Geezer
    We think a lot alike.
    Most all of my tools were purchased using that very same line of thought.
    and I would also get the wireless foot pedal just because its cool.
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    Guys,
    Its heavily patent protected. Won't be around for a while. A lot has to do with radio frequencies, and surrounding noise filtering.

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    OK, there is no reality to the "wireless" TIG torch idea, but I think the "bio-feedback" amperage control has potential. It's probably not even patented. Yet!
    Tony
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    An IR device would not have the frequency issues(it would have to be encoded like a car door opener). The ir sensor could have multiple locations for robustness.

    Chris

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    what is the foot pedal sending back to the machine? is it just a pot in a box, or is the logic in the footpedal, too?

    if it's just a pot, it wouldn't be a big deal to use PWM to control a LED->LDR combo on the machine end and a pair of transmitters. you could do bluetooth, xbee, or 433mhz serial. it'd probably cost around $150+ programming time. in the long run, I thought it was probably a better idea to adapt the miller than to build my own. I'm not great at soldering SMD components (little tiny circuit board parts) and the cost of breakout boards is high.

    if someone is really interested, I can devote some more time to working out the details.


    Edit:
    y'know, now that I think about it, you might be able to hack and use a wireless mouse, which would take the cost down a bunch.
    Last edited by ogorir; 06-04-2011 at 04:35 AM.
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    Until then I'm about as happy as a wet dog next to a warm stove with the 2T, & 4T settings....
    As a man thinketh, so shall he be.

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    The issues, involve High Frequency interference, and other broad EM spectrum frequencies. I have heard the inside story from some Miller guys about the foot pedal design and the issues they had to design around o prevent interferance. I would think IR would be a no go too since the arc is so bright and would interfere. I've had my IR sensor on my Sony Monitor/TV go haywire certain times of the day when the light comes in the window just right. It'd change all the settings. Close the blinds and it would be fine.
    Last edited by performance; 06-04-2011 at 07:05 AM.

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    I would really like to know how Miller has done their pedal because there is a lot of stuff that will cause interference with wireless. They are running it on 2.4ghz wireless from what I gathered in their tech specs which is the same the wireless your computers are using. There are mouse's and keyboards and xboxs and more than use it also. A simple fluorescent light can disrupt the wireless signal. I may be tempted to look into a method for creating something down the road when I have more time and funds. I already have a lot of projects to try and get done.
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    This thread is old but I figured I would add IR always needs a line of sight. So the pedal would have to be able to see the receiver. This means the pedal could not be under the table. I don't know why however it would be so hard for everlast to make there own design. I work on computers alot and routers with use the same radio principles are a pedal would use. There are alot of frequencies available. I would think over 5ghz would be a good range and not a whole lot of things are up that high. The pedal is so close to the receiver it should have good reception. Hell even if it's not possible you can make an adaptor to make the miller pedal work with your units and still make money on the deal. If not being able to use a wireless pedal with your units it a deal breaker you could probably get some people to buy everlast units that might not. Some people like the wireless pedals because when your moving around to weld cars or other things it is so easy to just move it around.
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    For a bunch of guys that bad mouth Miller at every chance you sure do want to copy everything they innovate.. First the different wave forms and now the wireless foot control..... That 600 dollar foot control cost more than all but the highest end Everlast machines !! LOL !!! Ever thought about buying the Dynasty machine and calling it a day?

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    I have never bad mouthed miller but since you said something lincoln's high end inverters would take a dynasty and eat it alive. If I was going to spend over $6000 or so it wouldn't be a miller.
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    I'm sure they do..... Jealousy is a very ugly trait. You don't want a Miller but you drool over every innovation they have? As for Lincoln's high end machines they must so good that no one ever speaks of them? ANYWHERE ....

    You talking about this POS? Better read those duty cycles and rethink your last statement .... Had it been the best machine on the market I would have bought one rest assured..
    http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us...roduct=K2916-1


    Kinda like the guy with a ford bad mouthing the guy down the street with a Ferrari, saying his neighbors Escort can eat it for lunch... Just wait till my big brother get home he'll tell you... LOL

    Comparing a welder to a Miller is as common as comparing every other tire to a Michelin ! It's done everyday because when you are the bast everyone is gunning for you..
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    I see a 40% for the lincoln vs 60% for the miller but the lincoln is 50 lb and the miller is almost 300lb. Larger units can have larger heat sinks. I would like to see you move that around with you everyday. You must have issues I see everyone else here talking and getting advice from each other. Every post you put talking crap or comparing this to that. You just assume I must be jealous of you. I'm a humble person but I am not jealous of you or anything you have. If you would like to pull out the tape measures and start we can. I could afford to my a miller but what if I couldn't afford to buy one. What if someone else couldn't afford to buy one who are you to sit there and say they must be jealous of you. I'm glad you are happy with your miller and I am happy with my unit. So if you want to assume I'm jealous of you are wrong. I've been very blessed and don't need for anything.
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    Also the miller only puts out the rated amps on three phase. On single phase it only puts out 225 amps. Thats less than my welder. The lincoln puts out rated amps no mater what. So what does duty cycle mater if you can't even put out the amps to use the high duty cylce.
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    Mr Cippee........... Exactly who are you and at what point did you decide anyone was speaking directly to you? You just decide to chime into a conversation with comments about products that you don't own and don't operate. What? do you live such a lonely life that you have to make something about you? It hasn't been more than a month ago that the head Tech person at Everlast made statements that foot pedals were for people that can't weld in an attempt to cover up a problem with another machine and today I see he's posting about how the Miller pedal is all protected and can't be copied for some time yet.. Quite a different story from foot controls are for people that can't weld..

    However you didn't have a dog in that fight either and are clueless about any of those issues.. Today you chime in about Bla, Bla, Bla makes... Bla, Bla, Bla.. Like you own either and have a dog in the fight.. You need to just crawl off back to the rock you live under and beak off somewhere else. Do you realize how pathetic it looks to make statements like XYZ has something better and if I wasn't a broke ### I would have one and I would be better than you! Do you understand how that reads? Well allow me to make that clear to you Mr Humble Pie!! There is always going to be a better mouse trap made by someone but until you step up and actually become a player you're nothing but an armchair quarterback running your mouth about things you know nothing about.. Again tell me how you escort can whip a Ferrari... Did you dream this all up or are you actually basing anything you have said on more than reading some sales flier? Or perhaps you know a guy that knows a guy that told your sister whom happens to be your wife about the Lincoln? Please expand on your comments I dying for my next laugh... And I have my Dynasty on 3 Phase so OOPS!! And since you are comparing the TOP OF THE LINE Lincoln let's be fair and compare the TOP OF THE LINE Dynasty... The 700.... Over 400 amps on single phase and 700 and 3 phase..... BOOM!!!!!! That was some knowledge being dropped on you but at 28 whole years old you already know everything right? The water is fine so jump on in and show me how mean that Lincoln is... I invite and in fact challenge you to put me in my place with all those talents you have gathered in the 28 years you have walked tall upon this earth.. Go to Home Depot since that's where Lincoln sells their junk and buy that big bad machine and beat poor little me to the ground like I deserve.. You're the man for the job aren't you?
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    I went to school for welding and used them all so I can judge them. I decided you were referencing me when the post was dead for six months and then you post an hour after me. I never said I know everything because people learn something new everyday. Sorry if you weren't talking to me I guess I get defensive. You know I don't want to start a pissing match. I don't think it is good for us or the forum. So lets me say I'm sorry and start over with an olive branch. I see you build custom turbo systems. I have an 87 grand national I built that makes about 550hp at 24psi but I run it at about 14 psi. This way I can run pump gas I would think it makes about 400 on the road. What type of cars do you make turbos for?
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    don't pay any attention to that nut case. he can only go so long without slipping into a psychotic state. ask him about his ex, you'll get a definition of misogynist... bet the other side of that story would be interesting. oh, and those dynasty's....cardboard cutouts. lol

    ps he becomes a little more deranged as the night wears on.... go figure.

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    I see fdc would you happen to be a firefighter. I was a volunteer for a while and it was fun. I have to edit this. I didn't mean it was fun watching someone's house burn down or a bad accident. I mean overall I enjoyed doing it. I liked the scba training blindfolded. I never new I was afraid of small places until I went through the obstacle course a few times . In school the dynasty broke and when we took it apart the insulation was very chintzy for a expensive machine. The circuit board was like stamped or fiber or what ever you call it. I went to school to work on computers when I was 19 and I never new boards that were made of that stuff.
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