Plasma & Torchmate

[worntorn]

Which of the Everlast plasma cutters are suited to use in a plasma table? Thinking of a Torchmate 4x4.

Are any of the multi-process machines up to this task?

Glen

[worntorn]

Went back thru the product list and went one click further, I see all the info is right there. It looks like the 60C is best suited.

I'm guessing the multi-function machines are not at all suitable for this usage since there is no mention of it. No doubt the duty cycle is not up to the task with so much stuff packed in a single machine.

Glen

[performance]

Next to that the PP 50. But the 60C is built specifically with CNC in mind.

[geezer]

Which of the Everlast plasma cutters are suited to use in a plasma table? Thinking of a Torchmate 4x4.

Are any of the multi-process machines up to this task?

Glen

Glen, I don't see a problem with using any of the plasma cutters if you take steps to isolate your computor and can wire up the trigger switch, Check out this pp 70 on utube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otdkuluv334

I think you could skate by on your existing unit although a dedicated plama cutter would make more sense.

[performance]

Geezer, Though its technically possibly, we have had many issues with using regular HF, even in test facilities of major companies that KNOW how to isolate things. Its hit or miss and does take CONSIDERABLE shielding to make it safe. One blown component can cost more than the additional cost of the 60C. It can be done, but the cost to have a regular unit versus the 60C outweighs the time, expense, and effort needed to make one compatable. There are internal differences as well that make the 60C worthy of use with a CNC.

[parkour]

What makes the 60C particularly well suited for CNC? It starts other than with HF? It uses a blowback torch? Thanks.

[performance]

Yes, the start style is different. I think we have a thread discussing just the 60C. It has a HV start with Lower Frequency that is out of the harmful range. It is internally different and has all the features necessary including the machine torch. It starts and pierces very fast according to all our testing information.

[Tritium]

So does the PU205P also have a start like the 60C since it also has a CNC port?

Thurmond

[Oleg]

Torchmate has PP50 and PP60C units and they been testing it for a while.
they will shoot a few videos for us today or tomorrow and will post them on there site.
'stay tuned !

[performance]

Thurmond,
Though we have added it, it is for only limited use and due to the design of the units, really should not be bought for CNC use. The 205 should work OK because it is a blowback design torch. Now with that said, you are pretty much limited to 1/8" or less CNC work with this unit because it, in my opinion doesn't have the "ummph" of the PP 50, though both are rated as 50 amps.

[SeanMurphy265]

Is the PP60C specifically for cnc, or can it be used as a normal plasma cutter?
I am saving my pennies for a plasma table. I would like a Torchmate, but they are expensive; I do like the fact you can upgrade into a larger table. Has anyone been using Everlast plasma cutters with other brands of plasma cutter?

[worntorn]

note the 60c is three phase, which probably makes it a nogo for most backyardigans.

I do have three phase in the shop thru a phase convertor, but I'm not sure how the electronics on the plasma would stand up to it. Our three phase transformed to 440 then back down to 110volt single phase(hard wired into the machine) popped the original DRO on my Mill within a few seconds of powering up. Now I run the new DRO on wall current 110volt.
I've been running large three phase equipment on the phase convertor for 25 years, but running new electronic machinery is a totally different game.

Glen

[performance]

I am not sure and will have to confirm with the factory, that the 60 C will operate on 220V 1 phase. Future models will definitely be. The 60 C can be used regularly as a normal plasma with the hand held optional torch. I also believe that Duncan told me the factory has wired the CNC torch a little differently but all that is needed to make the hand held torch work is to reverse two wires.

[Tritium]

Thurmond,
Though we have added it, it is for only limited use and due to the design of the units, really should not be bought for CNC use. The 205 should work OK because it is a blowback design torch. Now with that said, you are pretty much limited to 1/8" or less CNC work with this unit because it, in my opinion doesn't have the "ummph" of the PP 50, though both are rated as 50 amps.

I was just curious since it had the port and is blowback. I don't have a CNC so for now it doesn't matter and if / when I can manage a CNC (build or buy) I would want a dedicated plasma cutter anyway.

I saw a BIG CNC on e-bay recently for 15 grand (which seemed to be a giveaway). The company was upgrading. I think it's cutter was good for 4" steel. What a monster.

Thanks
Thurmond

[worntorn]

Hi Mark


any word from the factory as to whether or not the present 60C will operate on single phase?

Glen

[performance]

Yes,

It is similar to our 250EX in that regard. Sorry for the delay. Just tie or cut the extra wire so it is out of the way.

[Titan winch]

Yes,

It is similar to our 250EX in that regard. Sorry for the delay. Just tie or cut the extra wire so it is out of the way.

Actually there is a little more involved than just doing this. There are a couple of wires that need to be switched on the main power switch that run from 2 secondary transformers to enable single phase220v to operate.
Cheers

[performance]

After talking with Ray, who had worked with them, he said they were wired like the 250ex. But I guess I could have misunderstood.

[worntorn]

This is good news. I really don't want to take a chance on running this thing on my home generated 3 phase.

Glen

[Ray]

Duncan sent me some photos, where the unit was wired using all 3 phases to power the logic side of the machine. All the US machines I have seen so far use a single power supply for the logic side.

I have directed several (US) customers to wire them likethe250EX, capping off the red wire and had success.


So I’m not totally sure if there might ether be a differencein the Canadian version, or a difference in a more current version.


I would try it, if it doesn’t operate properly, (usually power but no display) give me a call and I’ll walk you through changing the wiring so it will.?