Everlast / Longevity Mig Machine Questions

[performance]

I'd recommend the I MIG 205 over the 205P unless you are using it for spool gun welding aluminum only since it does not have the capacity to get into spray mode for the pulse to be effective with steel. The new 205P should be up on our site now so you can compare.
I don't know what all the specs are of the "arc mates". All I know we come out with something, they copy it and have told me they would continue to do so (from the horses mouth so to speak). I don't go over there anymore even to check because it makes me mad. Anyone can back and research how they operate and how long our products have been out and the effort we put out. We work hard to put out new stuff, they come up with their copy. Don't know and don't care about them at this point. We have our eyes set on the bigger fish. Anyone ever check the number viewing our forum over on WW vs Theirs at the same time on average? Enough said about that. I will say that I do know they had Chiry copy the I MIGS a while back and they were pretty poor. They even posted a video of them on WW and could hear it was running awful. We had phone calls with funny numbers coming up on ID and chinese accents wanting to "know" what this function did and that function did for about 2 years.

For the record, we came out with the Proto-PowerTig line in October 08 and had it fully phased in by March 09. And theirs "new igbt infineon line"? Introduced a few at Atlanta this year and then didn't have much in stock until February or March OF THIS YEAR!!!...

Another point to prove my point....LOOK at their control arrangement. Any one looking at theirs versus ours can TELL someone over there doesn't know what they are doing...Looks like they grabbed a handful of controls and threw them at the panel....I believe they claim to have an R and D department...hmmm. Any one that studies design and evolution of it can definitely point the finger at someone "copying" something without understanding what it does or its function. No doubt they will read this now and copy our arrangement too. I can provide ALL the original panel designs I have made for the welders when we first get the concept of the machine. Can they?


Which company would you rather buy from? The one that comes up with the stuff and KNOWS WHY they did something or the one that copys the stuff without knowing why something is there. No doubt they are using some of our same parts suppliers, its obvious...But the way things are put together makes the difference.

[Tritium]

Thanks Mark, That clears up a lot of what I have suspected about some "family ties" between the two. It just had the flavor of soap if you know what I mean.

The last line of my signature indicates the preference that my research into each company indicated and Everlast machine's Look and Layout is VASTLY Superior.

Thurmond

[performance]

We have dealt with this issue before...and I guess we will keep dealing with it as each new wave of customers come through. Its not anything we hide. IF you go back and do the serious research, you can see the "evolution" and formation of their company as well as ours. But I keep going back to their MO. We never had a product that we offered they didn't copy...and then try to rewrite history about it saying it is the "only" one out there etc. And they have even copied the manuals I wrote verbatim and then denied it, even with the evidence, and further when it was revealed, blamed a customer that was said to have written them.

Also watch our new units coming out...if they don't have them, they will, give it 3-6 months. Can you tell its a little sore still? The latest thing? Some of our subscribers (as far as I can tell most of them probably) to our youtube videos were recently invited to become Longevity's.

I guess the sincerest form of flattery is imitation.

[SeanMurphy265]

Wow.... I had no clue about the history between the two companies. I would not have brought it up. I found it odd competitors would have machines that look similar. Even with Lincoln, Miller, and Thermal Arc their are appearance differences, as much as you can have for a welding machine. When I searched youtube for Everlast Videos I saw that Longevity had used Everlast in their tags so they would show up. When I was in sales I always tried to distinguish myself/company from my competitors. I found the similarities odd, and it made me wonder if the machines used the same parts. If I had done the research I would have learned the history of the two companies and never brought it up. I was invited to become a subscriber to Longevity's youtube channel. I wondered how they got my email address.

[Oleg]

Sean

Trust me on this one .. We don't share any info on costumers
If you ever went to there site they may use tools to collect info
Oleg

[performance]

Sean if you are subscribed to our channel or similar channels, or use your screen name on you tube, you could easily be asked to subscribe by them clicking and sending you a request.
We don't mind the question. Believe me, we have had significant internal discussion about this...with agreeement and disagreement. The fact remains, that there are some issues we can't do any thing about. We CAN continually improve our product, and work on offering better quality, service etc. Just like in a race setting our focus on the competition ahead of us gives us focus. If we LOOK at what competition is straggling and gasping behind us constantly, and keep glancing back, we will eventually fall further behind and be overtaken by the guys behind us. Of course the guys that get lapped think that if they cross the finish line next to the leader or slightly behind, they finished well to hear them tell it.

[bizkit]

I must first apologize. I purchased a Longevity I50 plasma cutter. I was in the market for a AC/DC Tig and those guys would never answer my emails nor could I get them on the phone about pricing. I'm very good friends with Sean Murphy the OP and he convinced me to give Everlast a call. Oleg was supper to deal with.....I went to a friend who has a fab shop and is unrestricted certified mig, tig and stick welder. His shop is full of Miller's. I unpack aged my new everlast 200DX at his shop and he help me dial in the settings. I think Oleg will be receiving a call from my friend very soon to add a new Everlast tig to his stable.

If I could only sale this Longevity I50 plasma I would replace it with a everlast quickly.

[SeanMurphy265]

I must first apologize. I purchased a Longevity I50 plasma cutter. I was in the market for a AC/DC Tig and those guys would never answer my emails nor could I get them on the phone about pricing. I'm very good friends with Sean Murphy the OP and he convinced me to give Everlast a call. Oleg was supper to deal with.....I went to a friend who has a fab shop and is unrestricted certified mig, tig and stick welder. His shop is full of Miller's. I unpack aged my new everlast 200DX at his shop and he help me dial in the settings. I think Oleg will be receiving a call from my friend very soon to add a new Everlast tig to his stable.

If I could only sale this Longevity I50 plasma I would replace it with a everlast quickly.

I told you! That's a fantastic tig welder!

[bobwills]

Ive always used miller mig and looked at the 211 before and the price aint too bad but the specs shund me away. Its duty cycle is a disapointment and caused me to keep looking. I think the i mig 205 would be pretty good. Its bout like the 212 miler has which is like the old 210s which are good.

[Injected65]

But to add, this is a old sore point, since the owner of Longevity used to work for Everlast, and is the owners brother in law. That's how all the bad blood got started. You fill in the blanks.

Now that must make for some interesting family get togethers!