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  1. #81

    Default Latest Update

    Haven't posted since the contest ended. Just got too busy with other stuff.

    Had a lot of activity trying to finish off the build. I've completed enough that I'll wait till spring for the little stuff.

    The recent activity was to finish the steering and trim and the steering control. Then went from the temporay wiring to the final wiring. The choke is on the left with the ignition and voltmeter on the right. The switches are for the strobe light (required by the Coast Guard), the running lights and headlight (that aren't installed yet).

    I also have a tach, but haven't installed that yet.

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    Lacking any inspiration on a graphic design - I went with the military look.
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    I want to move on to some woodworking projects that have been on the back burner. I also just got some sheet steel that I want to use the plasma torch on to build decorative security shutters.
    Just starting in Aug '10
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  2. #82

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    Are you entering the new contest ?
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  3. #83

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    Looks like your making good progess with your project, can't wait for update how it handles and how fast it goes. Keep us up to date.
    Bill

  4. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    Are you entering the new contest ?
    Unfortunately, no. I work at a start-up and have a big delivery coming up. So I'll be focused on work for a while.

    I will still be on as I work on my metal work projects though. I really like the forums and the folks on them.
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  5. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67cudafb View Post
    Looks like your making good progess with your project, can't wait for update how it handles and how fast it goes. Keep us up to date.
    Will do - but I'm pretty much done until spring. I just need the boat registration (already submitted) and the trailer completed to try it out (lots of little stuff I want to do, but it's flyable now).

    It was a totally consuming project for a little over a year, and I need a break now.
    Just starting in Aug '10
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  6. #86

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    Nice project! I worked for a guy that had one of them, we used it to get to his island vacation home when the lake was half frozen. Single prop design, it ducted some air down for lift. I can vouch for the speed over ice. The thing would just keep accelerating, we'd point it to a wide open spot and try to keep it going straight till we got there, let the power off and the thing would lose the lift, grind along the ice till it stopped and then we'd make a turn. Very scary. There was no 'gentle turning' on ice, you'd get it almost turned, and it would spin around quick, (a few times) the fan did not want to point into the wind. Your two prop design will probably be nicer to steer, if you can keep some lift going while cutting some thrust.
    Going 60 mph sideways over open holes and ice made me wonder how much I needed that job. It should be lots of fun on a nice hot summer day tho. Good luck, enjoy..
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  7. #87

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    Wow that has come a long long way since I was last able to see it. I read through the posts pretty quick and didnt see if you have been able to start it up and have it at least hover yet? I would love to see a video when you get it finished or running.
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  8. #88

    Default Young and dumb

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake98 View Post
    Nice project! I worked for a guy that had one of them, we used it to get to his island vacation home when the lake was half frozen. Single prop design, it ducted some air down for lift. I can vouch for the speed over ice. The thing would just keep accelerating, we'd point it to a wide open spot and try to keep it going straight till we got there, let the power off and the thing would lose the lift, grind along the ice till it stopped and then we'd make a turn. Very scary. There was no 'gentle turning' on ice, you'd get it almost turned, and it would spin around quick, (a few times) the fan did not want to point into the wind. Your two prop design will probably be nicer to steer, if you can keep some lift going while cutting some thrust.
    Going 60 mph sideways over open holes and ice made me wonder how much I needed that job. It should be lots of fun on a nice hot summer day tho. Good luck, enjoy..
    Amazing that when we were young and dumb the thought of getting hurt or killed never crossed our mind, older and wiser we look back and shake our head and go what the hell was I thinking but sure was fun lol. You have done nice job on the build be safe.
    Bill

  9. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67cudafb View Post
    Amazing that when we were young and dumb the thought of getting hurt or killed never crossed our mind
    You're not kidding...
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  10. #90

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    wow !!! cool project!
    Gil
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  11. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67cudafb View Post
    Amazing that when we were young and dumb the thought of getting hurt or killed never crossed our mind, older and wiser we look back and shake our head and go what the hell was I thinking but sure was fun lol. You have done nice job on the build be safe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake98 View Post
    You're not kidding...
    Maybe it's not that it never crossed our minds... just sort of a reckless abandon. When you're a kid, life still doesn't mean a whole lot to you yet, because it's not full, and it hasn't been that long? I know it crossed my mind a lot... "oh, this idea could kill me." and then it would soon be followed by "meh... oh well."
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  12. #92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Maybe it's not that it never crossed our minds... just sort of a reckless abandon. When you're a kid, life still doesn't mean a whole lot to you yet, because it's not full, and it hasn't been that long? I know it crossed my mind a lot... "oh, this idea could kill me." and then it would soon be followed by "meh... oh well."
    When I was young I thought I was 10' tall and bullet proof and come to find I am 5'9" and old crippled man but it was sure fun while it lasted lol.
    Bill

  13. #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmptyNester View Post
    Jason,

    But, the biggest cost has been using the hovercraft as an excuse for tools.

    I do the same. Oh darn! I must buy this welder*, if not for this welder*, I would never complete this project properly!

    On a more technical note, do you need to use a special epoxy that does not melt the foam. I know some epoxies and glues can be pretty aggressive against plastics and foams and such.

    by the way, it looks like a great project, and I'll be following your progress
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  14. #94

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    Can`t wait to see this thing in action!
    Gil
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  15. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.fisher View Post
    On a more technical note, do you need to use a special epoxy that does not melt the foam. I know some epoxies and glues can be pretty aggressive against plastics and foams and such.
    You can't use polyethylene based epoxy, it will melt the foam. I made a mistake and tried to use bondo fiberglass repair to fill a couple small holes. All it did was make a couple very bigs holes.

    I used a "standard" epoxy resin.
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  16. #96

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    I haven't been on the forums since before Christmas. Life has a way of interfering with fun

    I did get to work on the craft over the fall and winter. By Christmas it was ready for a test flight, but I had no way to get it anywhere. Plus, it was just too cold. But anyone who visited got to ride it while it hovered in the garage.

    I've been working on the trailer. I started with an HF 4x8 tilt trailer and have been modifying it. I welded a lot of the joints for peace of mind (and I like to practice my welding). I had to extend the tongue to fit the craft. I'm now building a wooden deck on it.

    To load it, the best concept was using a truck crane. So, last weekend I fabricated a hitch mount for it. The picture below shows how I expect it all to come together.

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    Tonight it was warm enough and I got home early enough that I tested the loading system. I was pleased with how it worked. I may need to make some minor tuning adjustments, but the concept seems sound. Once the hovercraft is in the air, I'll just slide the trailer underneath by hand.

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    After I put it down, I slapped the prop and it and tried powered flight for the first time. I only had about 10 feet of space, so it was a very short test. It worked! I had steering control and forward motion. But, when I cut back on the throttle - the belt for the prop jumpted the pulley. This has been a problem that I thought I had fixed, but I guess not.

    So, I think I can finish the trailer in a weekend. Then, if I work out the drive belt issue - I'll be ready for a real test flight.
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    Excellent, I hope you can post some video!
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  18. #98

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    Thanks for the info. on the resin. I haven't experimented much with it, but it's good to know, the only time I ever tried to bond foam together resulted in disaster.

    Once again, really nice work! Can't wait to see some video of the craft in action. I'm sure it's been asked in the past, but how much does the craft weigh?

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  19. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.fisher View Post
    I'm sure it's been asked in the past, but how much does the craft weigh?
    The specs say 500 lbs. But, I think that may be on the heavy side.

    The primary components are:
    engine - 100 lbs.

    hull:
    - 7 sheets of 2" extruded styrofoam insulation (got mine at Lowes)
    - 7 sheets of 1/4" marine grade plywood
    - 1/2 sheet 1" extruded foam (on top of the front)
    - 2 part marine foam (fills around the lift fan)

    (3) 1"x4"x16" for cockpit stringers and skirt attach strip
    (1) 4' x 8' x 1/4" for seats
    (1) 4' x 8' x 1/2" extruded foam for rudders and trim wing

    Epoxy and fiberglass

    Drive train components:
    - rear drive pulley with bushings
    - rear idlers pulleys (2) for 90 degree bend to prop
    - front idler pulleys (2) for slight bend to lift fan
    - lift fan drive pulley with bushings

    Skirt material (this was much heavier than I would have though - I would guess aroudn 30 pounds).
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  20. #100

    Default Long Overdue Update

    I spent a while in the spring trying to finish everything up for a test flight.

    My work is right by the river and everybody I work with was anxious to see it (all engineers). With software guys doing mechanical things - there's always the possiblity for an entertaining failure. And, I didn't disappoint

    I parked in the lot and figured I would just fly it to the ramp. It was down a slight hill, but I didn't think that would be an issue.

    The first thing was that the limestone dust in the parking area got sucked into the thrust prop and took the paint right off the leading edge of the prop.

    I started heading toward the ramp and the craft started sliding sideways down the hill. To stop I did a 180 and gunned the engine. It jumped the curb going backward and stopped right before dropping off a three foot drop onto rocks on the bank. (It was almost like a cartoon. As I started to step off the craft and it began to tip backwards until I jumped back on.) After a bunch of friends help lift it off the curb, I continued on to the ramp.

    Had one more incident where I tried to stop and almost hit a rock pile going backwards. (And scared the crap out of a guy fishing on the other side. I felt bad, but the cell phone video somebody got was funny. Turns out, I would have never hit anyone because they were on the other side of a large pile of rocks.)

    Once I got it on the water - everything seemed to work reasonably well. I didn't go too fast because I didn't want to risk any catastrophic failure and my throttle cable needed adjusted and I could only get about half throttle.

    Other than ripping a number of very large holes in the skirt and scaring the crap out of myself a couple times - I figured it was a success. (Flight 2 was also good, the most recent - flight 3 wasn't so successful).

    Video of the first flight is below:
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