New Old Guy in Florida

[FabGTO]

Aluminum is hard to see when it melts (will go from shiny if cleaned right to a haze) and if you sit there too long you will burn a hole.

Can you give us more details? Or a call.

I go from no melt to gone blown away. I thought there would be instructions for setting all these dials.
I will call some day, have to order parts B4 I can do anything.
What about air leak in plasma?

[everlastsupport]

What about air leak in plasma?

You will need to unplug the unit, pop the cover off, locate the main inlet hose in the unit, from the back of the machine to the regulator in the front. That hose takes the full force of your compressor to the internal regulator.

What PSI do you run your compressor at normally?

Might be better to call into support and we can give you a hand with this.

[performance]

Fab,

I you'll p.m. me your number, I will give you a call myself as well. We both will be glad to see what the issue is and get this resolved. It sounds as if the unit is functioning properly, but it is in the settings. But, in any case, this is not a DOA unit, neither are as you originally stated. Please go out and source a little practice metal from lowes or home depot or tractor supply if you don't have any so we can get to the bottom of the issue and work with you on the phone. Pictures of the problem would be nice as well.

Here's a few questions for you if you can't call:

Do you have the torch in the negative lug? There is a misprint in the manual (my fault in proofreading) that states the opposite, but it should be in the negative lug.

The blowing out you describe could result from too much heat or argon flow. It could also be from too much oxidation on the metal and the oxide on top will not melt until after the metal below has blown out and fallen through. Do you have your argon flow gauge set around 5-7 lpm? The flow meter is in lpm and not cfh. If you try to adjust it for cfh, you will be more than doubling your rate and it could cause all kinds of problems including siphoning air in behind the weld via a venturi effect causing oxidation as you weld and causing the blow through as well. Improper torch angle can as well. But IF it does NOT go to a qucksilver state before it falls through, this is a problem with oxidation however it is created, with wrong polarity, poor cleaning, excessive argon flow, wrong AC balance setting or wrong manipulation. How are you cleaning your metal?

This is not to exclude a problem with the machine...To be frank, I have received calls like this before, but always ended in some sort of basic operational error. But we need to isolate any operator issues before we feel the machine is faulty. Please spend some time with us to get to the bottom of this. If it is the machine, the we will cover that but, we need quick cooperation to figure out the problem to cover the 30 day period of time under the sales agreement. On a case like this, if the machine is at fault, either Mike or I will get the unit and found out what went wrong so we can make improved support to other customers.

What are your maximum amps for the metal? Are you using the foot pedal or panel control? Where is your arc force? Have you tried the pulse to control your heat input?

Set the unit around 30% on AC balance. Put the frequency around 60-100 hz for a start. These are not hard and fast rules. That is why they have the range of adjustment that they do.
What size and kind of electrode are you using? How are you grinding your electrodes? On a dedicated wheel? What does the ball look like on the end? HOw large is it?

What other settings are you using? What does it sound like on AC? Square wave machines sound different that transformer machines. It should be a buzz, not a light hiss, but the higher the frequency, the higher pitch and louder the buzz becomes, but it does sound different than the transformer machines.

If you've broken your cups, it could be too hot of amperage with too high of frequency. I have shattered a cup or two with the frequency control jammed all the way up when at a high amperage. One time I broke one when I had too little argon flow due to a blockage in the line, the poor little cup couldn't take it.



What pressure are you using to supply the plasma cutter?
The plasma will leak if it is overpressurized to the machine. Supply pressure should be about 80-90 psi, no more. Operating pressure should be about 65 psi on the cutter. If it is overpressurized, it can loosen the crimp on fittings by swelling the internal tubing too much and cause a leak. Use your tank regulator to adjust the pressure down before using your plasma regulator. If a leak has been started, the machine will still work unless too much air is escaping. The lines will need to be fixed by removing crimp fittings and adding a couple of good quality hose clamps. This should fix your problem unless the tubing has ruptured.

[FabGTO]

Fab,

What pressure are you using to supply the plasma cutter?
The plasma will leak if it is overpressurized to the machine. Supply pressure should be about 80-90 psi, no more. Operating pressure should be about 65 psi on the cutter. If it is overpressurized, it can loosen the crimp on fittings by swelling the internal tubing too much and cause a leak. Use your tank regulator to adjust the pressure down before using your plasma regulator. If a leak has been started, the machine will still work unless too much air is escaping. The lines will need to be fixed by removing crimp fittings and adding a couple of good quality hose clamps. This should fix your problem unless the tubing has ruptured.

100psi max
Thanx will do

[everlastsupport]

FabGTO

Check here for a response I made to customer earlier. You will see it is basically the same. See the last post (well it is the last one right now).

http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...?p=993#post993

Again, can you PM us a phone number or call when you are in front of the unit. We really want to help.

[BurningMetal]

FabGTO,

did you get everything resolved?

[smackdaddy]

To me it sounds like the foot control. I found out its a on of deal after I set the welder to over 200 amps and hit the foot control thinking it would ease in slowly only to find out its full throtle and then hold momma cause your gonna burn up your ceramic cups and everything else in a hurry! I just use the torch and no foot control for now. Hope that helps.

[FabGTO]

FabGTO,

did you get everything resolved?

Believe it or not I have not even looked at it I don’t have supplies now anyway. I have a new product coming out for forced induction cooling on GTOs. I’m so excited about it that all my time is focused on that. Final part goes to CNC next week. Then some more testing after it passes Dyno testing I hope to ship in time for Xmas.

[BurningMetal]

Believe it or not I have not even looked at it I don’t have supplies now anyway. I have a new product coming out for forced induction cooling on GTOs. I’m so excited about it that all my time is focused on that. Final part goes to CNC next week. Then some more testing after it passes Dyno testing I hope to ship in time for Xmas.

some sort of intercooler? air-to-air or an air-water intercooler?

[FabGTO]

My new partner finally figured out this welder some what. But it’s still leaking. We have soaped everything inside and out but still can’t find leak. When you’re not using it the gauge goes down. We have gone through 2 tanks now in short time. The plasma still leaks air too.

[everlastsupport]

When you are not using the welder, always the bottle/tank should be turned off and tight. Once you turn off the bottle, nothing beyond the valve on the tank can be leaking?

Also, this is a post from November of 2009. Might have wanted to start a new thread.

Did you soap the bottom of the tank pressure gauge when it is turned on?

[FabGTO]

When you are not using the welder, always the bottle/tank should be turned off and tight. Once you turn off the bottle, nothing beyond the valve on the tank can be leaking?

Also, this is a post from November of 2009. Might have wanted to start a new thread.

Did you soap the bottom of the tank pressure gauge when it is turned on?

Soaped everything inside and out but still can’t find leak.

[everlastsupport]

Can you hear any gas at the torch, maybe the solenoid is not closing all the way?

But with the bottle off you shouldn't loose any gas.

[Gary]

Just read through the thread (since it was an old on brought back up)
How big of an Argon tank do you have is it a little one from harbor Freight like a little 25 or something. Those will empty in no time.I know there is a leak but like Mike said shut off the gas at the tank when not using and also empty the regulator to keep pressure off of it..
Also on aluminum settings , try NOT hooking up the foot pedal and set like this to start.
1 NO PULSE
2 1 second pre and post Flow just to check
3 upslope and down slope to the minumum (all the way to the left)
4 A/C balance at about 9:00 and A/C freq at the 12:00 position.
5 Set on 2T mode ( that will take the foot pedal out of the equasion)
6 Set amps low to start so if you have a scrap of aluminum say .0625 then just set at 50 amps to start. It will take time to puddle at 50 amps in A/C
7 Set Argon flow at where the bottom of the ball is at the 5LPM mark.
Those settings will get you in the ball park on the welder .
Also A/C welding makes a lot more sizzle sound than D/C on steel. It will have a nice sizzle sound whe AC Frequency is set right.
And if you cant find a leak with soapy water then like Mike suggested it might be the solenoid. BUT if there is a leak in the solenoid the ball will want to float even a little
if you are losing that much gas from a big tank.
Take a cup of water (with the welder UNPLUGGED and just put the tip with or without a tungsten but make sure the rear cap is on) in the cup just up to the ceramic nozzel . If it the solenoid is leaking there will be a bubble or a stream right away.
Hope this helps.
Gary

[performance]

You haven't followed the course of action we gave you. You haven't directly called us in person, live on the phone as is the standard course of action, in any recent memory and have not followed what is suggested even here. Nor have you followed up with any updates or exact information. Typically, we have found that many customers get bad bottles of gas. At this point, I am not sure what information to give you since we haven't gotten feedback from you directly. You may have had your problem a while, but we haven't heard from you directly. If you need your unit or part of it serviced, then you should have made direct contact. We have the forum to catch problems that we wouldn't otherwise, but once here, direct contact is always the ultimate and quickest solution. You say it took a year to get a decent reply, and no phone call? Your post is full of innacuracies and you haven't made any follow ups with anyone, at least as of late. You didn't answer questions posed here and didn't reply in any form...until you made a post tonight. We have no idea, except what information you give us, and you haven't given any that will help resolve any problems...How can you post negative comments without even giving us a chance?

[FabGTO]

All my posts from this yr been delegated. Do you want these machines back? Never used well not successfully

[everlastsupport]

If you'd call us, (877-755-9353), we'll be more than willing to help you. You can also email your phone number to support@everlastwelders.com and we can call you back.

This thread is months old and I know we make callbacks every day and most weekends.

If we do not get to everyone in a day (sometimes Mark, Ray and Duncan handle sales calls and thing can get busy), you go to the top of the list for the next day. If you end up leaving a message, please leave your phone number twice so we get all the digits. I personally can get 1-2 calls a day where a person leave a first name and no number, or a number all chopped up from a cell phone.

A phone call is all we ask. I saw Mark requested that as well. We will be more than happy to help you.

We clearly post on the forum, this tech forum is for support not to complain/vent. We've had customer do this only to find (by phone) it's operator error and ask us to remove it. Sometimes it's is a bad unit or regulator.

We do not delegate posts, however, we will remove an unconfirmed post, unprofessional post or unrelated post. Unrelated ones normally move to another thread.

Anyway we will make it right, but we have to diagnose it first.

I see others have even attempted to help back in August, then the post goes silent (all assume all is handled), now November we seems to need to start it again.

Have you called in to swap the regulator? We can send a solenoid to you as well. Also, as stated, small bottle go very fast.

[FabGTO]

I have called. I requested a regulator and consumables on form but was deleted. 80lb is not a small bottle to me. They are expensive .

[performance]

Fab,
You aren't answering or dealing with the questions.

You haven't called one of us. Nor will getting "consumables" fix your problem. You CANNOT request them here. YOU MUST CALL DIRECTLY TO GET THE PARTS YOU NEED. POSTING HERE WILL NOT GET YOU YOUR PARTS. WE DON'T HAVE YOUR INFORMATION. WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE. WE DO NOT KEEP YOUR RECORDS ON FILE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, PLEASE CALL.

We need to deal directly with you to resolve this issue. That can't be stressed enough. Why haven't you called us? Mike and I are the ones that you would talk to. I don't have any messages....

[FabGTO]

Fab,
You aren't answering or dealing with the questions.

You haven't called one of us. Nor will getting "consumables" fix your problem. You CANNOT request them here. YOU MUST CALL DIRECTLY TO GET THE PARTS YOU NEED. POSTING HERE WILL NOT GET YOU YOUR PARTS. WE DON'T HAVE YOUR INFORMATION. WE DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE. WE DO NOT KEEP YOUR RECORDS ON FILE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, PLEASE CALL.

We need to deal directly with you to resolve this issue. That can't be stressed enough. Why haven't you called us? Mike and I are the ones that you would talk to. I don't have any messages....

I did call at least 2 times. What questions? It sounds like frequency is off no mater what settings. Plasma leaks inside. I cant weld with it my guy cant weld with it. Not wasting any more time money on it. You said you guaranteed satisfaction….