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    I am fairly new to welding with my mig but can do well on my horizontal welds and pretty happy with them. Penetration, row of dimes and so forth. My problem with the same settings my vertical welds compare to mud slung on a wall 70% of the time and just can't find the answer. Can someone hellp me with this? Thanks Mickey

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    We need pictures... without them it sounds like you're traveling too slow. A hotter faster weld puts less heat into your work.
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    normally with vertical welds you have to use the weave technique. pause longer on your edges and move a little faster over the middle of the weld. as zoama said, without actually seeing whats going on, all i can give is that vauge advice on doing vertical welds. but you did say same settings as horizontal? normally id turn my heat down a tad becasue of all the heat going into the metal.
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    Thanks. I will try to get some pix of my mess er welds but they seem to blob up and what your feet, here they come.

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    To understand your problem, you have say whether you are going up hill or down hill, heat travels up hill so if you are welding up hill the base metal will be easier to weld and require fewer amps as you are traveling towards preheated metal, if you are welding down hill you are traveling towards cold metal, the heat is rising over material and weld bead you have created, so asO rule you need more amps to weld the cold base metal and need to travel faster to keep the puddle from over heating and running past you. On up hill use a weave ,pause on each edge and move quickly through the center, on down hill less weave just move fast and stay ahead of the puddle, most of this stuff is hand]eye coordination and practise,

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    Thanks for the input. I'm outside working on a project now and will work on that technic. Thanks again.

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    Check this out for some assistance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAHPJL_crU
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    Check this one out and look at the speed. I have been working on vertical welding and it is much harder than it looks. I have been slowing down and trying to have consistent pauses. My problem was going too slow in the middle and ended up with a big crown and the puddle did not wet out on the ends at first. Watching these types of videos has helped my progress.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg9O7...feature=relmfu
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVA View Post
    Check this one out and look at the speed. I have been working on vertical welding and it is much harder than it looks. I have been slowing down and trying to have consistent pauses. My problem was going too slow in the middle and ended up with a big crown and the puddle did not wet out on the ends at first. Watching these types of videos has helped my progress.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg9O7...feature=relmfu
    Cannot agree more,they are great videos and I have learned much from them myself.

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    You might also want to spend some serious time at Jody's site: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com .

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