why buy green instead of red or blue?

[backhoe]

Hey guy's,new member here needing an ac/dc tig to repair flat bottom aluminum boats.I've been making do with my Miller 212 and spool gun butit's a PITA on the thin ones where I can't use a backing plate, so I'm shopping. I've got the money for the 185 micro now but a little hesitant to spend on anything that ain't blue or red but at the same time I can't really afford them. All I want is a basic machine,and the green one fit's the bill and pocket book. I quess I'm asking to be convinced, now let me hear it!

[Trip59]

Read through the forum, check out the vid reviews on weldingtipsandtricks.com that combo was enough for me (soon as $$ is available anyhow) I'm not even looking at red and blue anymore. Another thing, check around on service and people's thoughts on service for all three, I'm beyond impressed with what I've seen and frankly, scared to look at red on that note.

[parkour]

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Best thing I can say is that if you're reluctant to go Everlast green, and not in a hurry to get the welder, just hang out on the forum for a while. That is what I did. I found that there were a lot of happy Everlast users, and yes problems creep up, but the staff seem to do everything you could expect to rectify the situation. I have never heard anywhere of anyone having problems and not getting it worked out by Everlast.

When I got my 250EX, the entire shipment was sold before it even arrived in port. All of the new 250EXT's were sold before they arrived too. I can only imagine that Everlast is doing a pretty good business, and I've never seen a used Everlast machine for sale. They work. If they don't it will be fixed. Then why sell? You just paid 1/5 of what you would have to blue or red.

Check out weldingtipsandtricks on youtube (link)

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eta; darn, beat by one minute.

[sportbike]

I agree with the 200DX being probably the best value out there for 90% of the users. I bought one and it works great.

[backhoe]

Good morning guy's, I put my last post on the tig thread, sorry. I have a stick welder, mig and plasma so I just want a tig,but wondered if the dx200 might be better just for the pulse and foot pedal. I'm just conserned with thin like .095 aluminum on the worn out flat bottom's I patch up. I figure it's got to better than my spool gun as for as burn through. Thank's again and have blessed day.

[sportbike]

You can use the pulse to reduce the effective output of eh welder as well. For .095, you will still need a fair amount f current to weld it. Aluminum typically takes more current then steel due to the high thermal conductivity of aluminum. You will probably between 70-100 amps, depending on the type of joint you are working with.

[jerky]

i was hesitant about buying green as well, but for the price, you cant even look at red or blue. so far the service has been great to me and i havent even got my machines yet. i use blue all day long and really i love them. i wasent even going to look at anything else, but like i said, for the price i couldnt buy what i wanted from blue. for the home shop, i believe this is a great purchase.

[bobwills]

I say go green too. Its a chance that everyone here has been willing to take and majority say it was a great by. Im one of them. As they say majority rules. I done have a tig but got the powerarc 200. It was VERY cheap and i will say works great. I have never had a problem with it and as everyone says the service is great. May have a wait every once in a while if you prepay before the units are in but thats all I had. For the money you cant go wrong. Since then my plan is to save up for a powerplasma 50. Im a believer now along with many other people on here.

[Jake98]

I'm completely satisfied with my two Everlast units as well, Powerplasma 70 and Powertig 200DX. You hear lots about them being 'great for the money', but I think the quality is top of the line, regardless of the price. I have been investing in tools for around 40 years, and these are in no way disappointing.

[everlastsupport]

People must understand that even Everlast tech support, Mark, Ray, myself. We all started somewhere. Crack on ESAB and Mark will crack you on the head probably. I to was Red (plasma) AND Blue (MIG/TIG) at one time. When a red machine died and it was $2400 to fix it and a new one was $2600+, I felt a little duped.

I went to the internet, saw lots of hate mail on Everlast, I took the plunge/chance. It was much worse back then. Funny thing, I got cold feet and canceled my order, Alex said no problem unit had not shipped. I thought if that easy to get my money back, I called back again and re-ordered. I could tell he was a little ticked.

Months later I start working in tech support for Everlast, all this MANY years ago... So for me it's all green. My units are used about everyday including Sat and Sun (MIGs for sure). I have sons that bring in projects, and buddy's everyday. Today, Sunday, is a trailer axle chop and golf cart rear seat frame.

[DaveO]

Welcome, Backhoe!

For me one of the big draws for Everlast is the positive reviews and comparisons done independently at WeldingTipsAndTricks.com. The guy that runs the website is a no-nonsense type, knowledgeable and funny to boot. I was looking for a used Red or Blue when somebody pointed me toward Everlast, and then I found WTandT.com, and that and the 5-year warranty clinched me.

Another selling point for the 185 Micro: it's available in a dual voltage model for true portability. That may suit your kind of work very well. And btw there's a 185 Micro video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fguSYx-gjjg

So again, welcome to the forums, and let us know what you decide. Can I ask, what town are you in, and are you welding exclusively on alumnium boats?

[backhoe]

Ya I'm hearing ya just keep on talking. No ,not a full time welder,it and blacksmithing is apaying hobby.

[brianscott]

The machine works great. Good luck if you have a problem
and need to deal with sales. I've had my machine for
6 months and my issue has yet to be resolved.

I've only dealt with Mike R. in tech support
and he has been outstanding.

[zoama]

The machine works great. Good luck if you have a problem
and need to deal with sales. I've had my machine for
6 months and my issue has yet to be resolved.

I've only dealt with Mike R. in tech support
and he has been outstanding.

What would it take to solve your problem ?

[brianscott]

A new machine. I was told 4 months ago
a new one was coming soon. I guess I don't
know the definition of "soon".

[sportbike]

I am an Engineer that works with a design / prototyping / fabrication for a variety of things from Large Art Sculptures to Unmanned ground combat vehicles to ship hulls, etc...

Our machine . weld shop manager used to be a full time welder, and is a die hard US made kind of guy. Whe looking at welders last spring, he was showing me Miller and lincoln, and I showed him the everlast welders. He, even being anti chinese-import as much as possible (as am I honestly), said, might as well give it a shot. As most know, you cannot even get remotely close to a Miller or Lincoln unit with anywhere near the features for the cost of an everlast.

After talking with Oleg, I purchased a 200 DX. I could have gone bigger, but I made my decision based on 2 things. The first was the availability of the guys at work to weld anything that was too big for the 200dx. I can layout, prep, and tack, then bring to work to get it welded. (quite frankly, if it is too big for the 200DX, I probably shouldn't be welding it anyway as I am far from a great welder and in my case, that woudl mean a major structural component of a Motorcycle frame or swingarm modification on my race bike.)
The second reason was the input power / current requirements. I am currently operating my 200DX at full power with a 100+ ft 10 gauge extension cord off of my dryer plug. I was going to wire in a 40 or 50A 240v outlet in my garage, but that would have added almost the cost of the welder to do so. My house only has a 100A service and the box is pretty much full at that.

Once I received the welder, I took it into work, and the shop manager was quite impressed with all of the features (of which he admittedly noted that they really aren't needed most of the time anyway). the only deficiency we could find as compared to the Miller syncrowaves was the max power output (which we knew going in). We have a Miller Aerowave welder int eh shop as well (while we don't usually use most of the features either)

I think the 185 is a good welder for most, but quite frankly, I wold go with a 200DX. If the 110V option is of benefit for you, then the 185 (dual voltage) may be the way to go, otherwise, go with eh 200DX.

John

[Oleg]

The machine works great. Good luck if you have a problem
and need to deal with sales. I've had my machine for
6 months and my issue has yet to be resolved.

I've only dealt with Mike R. in tech support
and he has been outstanding.

Brain ... you the one who WANTED TO WAIT FOR NEW 2012 LX units to come in
we already set up exchange you. This is same Brain with Solenoid not shutting off automatically .

if you not happy with us still , i will offer you full refund on unit that been used for 6 month. I think you told me you were using for all this time but had to shut off the welder to get the Solenoid shut off.



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[zoama]

@Brian, I would wait on the new machine if I were you. No one likes to wait but you know the old saying about good, fast and cheap... you can only pick two.

[bobkat]

I can give you this information,,, I have a blue, red and brown. Miller, Lincoln andHobart.
Last year i started looking around for a used inverter tig for portability, I ran across the everlast site and did some checking and reading, My friends all cried JUNK, But with too many positive posts i purchased a 200 dx, I was hesitant to purchase but decided to try one out figured witha 5 year warranty they cant be junk or they would be doing warranty work on all the units, Which in the business world is not profitable.I know I have a product that i warranty for 5 years to my customers,WHY?? Because i dont have much problems so it is easy for me to do. Anyway on to the welder,, I AM QUITE SURPRISED ,it is an excellent machine for the $$$$. I think it welds as good as my blue one, My nay sayer friends also surprised. One year trouble free so far, Matter of fact just rcvd my pp50 plasma this evening, Looks like a great unit for the money, We will see, It did arrive with the back panel cracked/ damaged , but that is a shipping issue,, Go for it, i think you will be happy.

[DaveO]

Bobkat and Titan Winch, thanks for bringing the thread back on topic. I was wondering if Backhoe might consider the 200DX, since it would give the capability of DC stick welding. It's a touch more, and I understand about tight budgets, but might be worth thinking about!