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zoama CK 130 Torch W/25' Superflex... 12-06-2011, 01:06 AM
jerky thats a nice torch. the light... 12-06-2011, 01:37 AM
jakeru That looks very nice for... 12-06-2011, 01:44 AM
Jonnywoods This looks like the ideal set... 01-23-2012, 05:45 AM
jakeru The TL210 takes industry... 01-23-2012, 06:31 PM
Jonnywoods Thanks jakeru I appriciate... 01-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Jake98 No torch switch tho, huh? I... 12-24-2011, 04:06 PM
zoama Just about any switch will... 12-24-2011, 04:20 PM
Jake98 The black 18" gas hose came... 12-28-2011, 02:12 AM
zoama The black hose was 6 feet... 12-28-2011, 02:30 AM
zoama Update... it's gonna be 1 or... 12-29-2011, 02:11 AM
Joe from NY Will this torch work on the... 12-30-2011, 05:35 PM
zoama I missed your post somehow... 01-12-2012, 03:39 AM
Jake98 That's a nice setup, bet it... 01-12-2012, 04:13 AM
Injected65 I'm waiting on some... 01-12-2012, 05:00 PM
Joe from NY how much was that torch... 01-12-2012, 07:52 PM
zoama Price is in the first post... 01-13-2012, 12:15 AM
Jake98 did you get a few extras for... 01-13-2012, 12:25 AM
zoama Sure, PM me the address you... 01-13-2012, 12:44 AM
Jake98 You could make one in two... 12-30-2011, 09:13 PM
zoama "1 hose or 2 hose thing"... 12-30-2011, 09:39 PM
Jake98 Yeah, you got the 1 hose with... 12-30-2011, 10:43 PM
zoama I also have a wp-9f... the... 12-30-2011, 11:11 PM
zoama Torch Switch Added 01-12-2012, 02:27 AM
ChadP Does the torch come with the... 01-22-2012, 07:13 PM
zoama Yes, red is the standard lead... 01-22-2012, 08:57 PM
ChadP I ordered my torch setup like... 01-23-2012, 01:36 AM
zoama Answer in post #1 and #7. :) 01-23-2012, 02:09 AM
NRM Zoama do you know the ID of... 07-18-2012, 07:13 PM
zoama 6mm will work but 5mm is the... 07-18-2012, 08:27 PM
NRM Zoama thanks again. I hope... 07-18-2012, 10:14 PM
zoama The CK fitting has a collar... 07-18-2012, 10:33 PM
Rambozo You could look elsewhere... 07-18-2012, 10:43 PM
zoama That came from the owner... 07-18-2012, 10:57 PM
NRM I saw Zoama's comment... 07-18-2012, 11:57 PM
zoama If you can't find a dealer... 07-19-2012, 12:24 AM
NRM Ha..... I'm glad you asked... 07-19-2012, 01:01 AM
zoama I believe two piece cables... 07-19-2012, 01:29 AM
NRM That’s where my confusion... 07-19-2012, 01:45 AM
zoama Through dinse = power and gas... 07-19-2012, 02:03 AM
NRM I am planning on getting the... 07-19-2012, 03:32 AM
zoama The torch comes with a medium... 07-19-2012, 03:46 AM
NRM I have never had a problem... 07-19-2012, 03:57 AM
zoama They fit better allowing the... 07-19-2012, 04:10 AM
Rambozo I was going to ask the same... 07-19-2012, 06:36 AM
jakeru The wedge collets aren't 100%... 07-28-2012, 02:50 AM
Trip59 Just wondering, what's the... 12-18-2012, 01:44 AM
zoama Head angle is all I see. It's... 12-18-2012, 02:29 AM
225 I LOVE my ck130. Just love it. 12-18-2012, 08:05 PM
willida Does the CK130 use the same... 01-17-2013, 02:08 PM
Rambozo Yes, what CK calls series 2... 01-17-2013, 02:32 PM
Rectified Check prices of the same... 12-18-2012, 01:09 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRM View Post
    That’s where my confusion came from as I thought that the gas flowed thru the dinse connector making it a 1-piece. So I guess that both setups will work but the 1-piece is the way to go. The diagram below is better I think.
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    Weldfabulous does have the torch I am looking for and its about $50 cheaper than arc-zone and the best part is they ship USPS.
    Through dinse = power and gas come from the female dinse connector... in other words, the post on the male side has a hole in the end.

    I highly recomend getting a couple CK wedge collets when you order.
    Last edited by zoama; 07-19-2012 at 02:07 AM.
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    I am planning on getting the wedge collets. Here is my online shopping comparrison between, Arc-Zone, Welding City, Weldfabulous, 3Shop-River (ebay) and River-Weld for 2 series consumables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRM View Post
    I am planning on getting the wedge collets. Here is my online shopping comparrison between, Arc-Zone, Welding City, Weldfabulous, 3Shop-River (ebay) and River-Weld for 2 series consumables.

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    The torch comes with a medium backcap.
    Once you use the wedge collet you won't go back to the regular ones.
    Weldingcity has a good deal on 2% lanthanated tungsten. 3/32 will give you the most milage.
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    I have never had a problem with the standard 3 series collets but want to try thr wedgw collets. What diffrences have you seen? Pros/Cons?
    I have never used lanthanated just pure and ceriated so maybe I will give them a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRM View Post
    I have never had a problem with the standard 3 series collets but want to try thr wedgw collets. What diffrences have you seen? Pros/Cons?
    I have never used lanthanated just pure and ceriated so maybe I will give them a try.
    They fit better allowing the gas lens to be fully seated into the head and the backcap will lock your tungsten just as the oring seats. They're made of brass and should last for years of hobby use. Well worth the extra pennies IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    They fit better allowing the gas lens to be fully seated into the head and the backcap will lock your tungsten just as the oring seats. They're made of brass and should last for years of hobby use. Well worth the extra pennies IMO.
    I was going to ask the same question. I've been using the same set of Weldcraft collets and bodies for over a dozen years, so other than abuse, I didn't see lifespan as a huge issue. I don't understand about the gas lens fitting better, that should be screwed in fully with no collet in place to make the best connection with the torch body. Collet bodies and gas lens bodies should even be wrench tightened, for those with provisions. And the back cap o-ring seals between the ID and OD, the cap shouldn't seat at all, so it is applying full pressure to the collet, and not hitting anywhere else. I will probably try a CK torch next, so I will see what the differences are. I understand some of the current carrying advantages, and the more robust design that can tolerate more abuse. I've worked with plenty of people that have destroyed TIG torch parts, by running them loose, tightening them with a deathgrip, or putting way too much current through a small size. Apart from cups, tungsten, and a new o-ring every few years, I haven't really had the other parts be consumed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    I was going to ask the same question. I've been using the same set of Weldcraft collets and bodies for over a dozen years, so other than abuse, I didn't see lifespan as a huge issue. I don't understand about the gas lens fitting better, that should be screwed in fully with no collet in place to make the best connection with the torch body. Collet bodies and gas lens bodies should even be wrench tightened, for those with provisions. And the back cap o-ring seals between the ID and OD, the cap shouldn't seat at all, so it is applying full pressure to the collet, and not hitting anywhere else. I will probably try a CK torch next, so I will see what the differences are. I understand some of the current carrying advantages, and the more robust design that can tolerate more abuse. I've worked with plenty of people that have destroyed TIG torch parts, by running them loose, tightening them with a deathgrip, or putting way too much current through a small size. Apart from cups, tungsten, and a new o-ring every few years, I haven't really had the other parts be consumed.
    The backcap o-ring touches the torch body, the backcap is not bottoming out. Maybe my discription isn't the best but I've seen someone here advise leaving the gas lens loose so that the backcap seals.
    I'll try to get some pictures later today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRM View Post
    I have never had a problem with the standard 3 series collets but want to try thr wedgw collets. What diffrences have you seen? Pros/Cons?
    I have never used lanthanated just pure and ceriated so maybe I will give them a try.
    The wedge collets aren't 100% improvement over regular.

    The fact that they're brass instead of copper doesn't make them more resistant of taking heat, IMO. I've ruined one by overheating it (giving it a permanent bend/deformation to it.)

    The main thing I like about them is, how quickly they "firm up" when tightening the backcap. They are very quick-acting. Maybe 1/4 turn of the backcap to firm them up. (Compared to probably 2-4 times that much rotation being required with a standard collet.)

    The main thing I dislike about them is, when you need to increase your tungsten stickout just a little bit, it can be difficult. (They can "lock up" and prevent the tungsten from coming out, even when you have the backcap loose.) Sometimes, the quickest way is to unscrew the backcap all the way.) Decreasing tungsten stickout with them on the other hand, is always super easy, quick and reliable. (because the wedge collet won't "lock" when the tungsten is moved that direction.)

    I found a trick with regular collets that has made using them a lot more enjoyable since I figured out out: you gently bend the pieces away from each other just a bit, so it "springs" open natually (allowing the tungsten to practically fall out or slide very easily) when the backcap is loosened. It really helps give some feedback on how much you need to tighten/loosen to get the tungsten adequately freed. (Because the tungsten practically starts falling out on its own once it's loose enough. No tungsten getting "stuck" even though the backcap is loose.)
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    Just wondering, what's the difference between a 9 and a 130, other than the 5A on the 100% duty cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trip59 View Post
    Just wondering, what's the difference between a 9 and a 130, other than the 5A on the 100% duty cycle?
    Head angle is all I see. It's 70 degrees for the 9 and 90 degrees for the 130. Click image for larger version. 

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    I LOVE my ck130. Just love it.
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    Does the CK130 use the same consumables as the 9/20 torches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by willida View Post
    Does the CK130 use the same consumables as the 9/20 torches?
    Yes, what CK calls series 2 parts.

    http://www.ckworldwide.com/2series.pdf
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    based upon the comments in this thread, I went and ordered myself one of these torches and associated parts today.

    can't wait till they show up!

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