Minimum Storage Temperature For Everlast Welders ?

[zoama]

What's the minimum storage temperature for everlast welders ?

[bobwills]

Yeah thats something good to know cause mine sites out in the cold. I would think there wouldnt be one cause from what i know is cold dont hurt electronics. Heat is the only worry.

[zoama]

Yeah thats something good to know cause mine sites out in the cold. I would think there wouldnt be one cause from what i know is cold dont hurt electronics. Heat is the only worry.

Electrolytic capacitors may pose a problem.

[performance]

Minimum temperature should be 20° F. Extreme temperatures should be avoided. We prefer for the units be stored above freezing. Capacitors can freeze.

[bobwills]

ok so i should start bringing it in during winter

[sportbike]

Minimum temperature should be 20° F. Extreme temperatures should be avoided. We prefer for the units be stored above freezing. Capacitors can freeze.

Wow that high of a "low"....probably should advertise that a little better. I will need to bring mine into the basement. It's already around that here now.

[performance]

I went back over some old factory information. 14 degrees F or -10C is absolutely the lowest recommended operating temperature. I say 20 for the safe side of things. I don't think my hands would work in that cold very long anyway. Storage can go a little lower ( and varies on the model) into the single digits but do you want to push it? The whole idea is to take care of your welder as an investment. Just as you wouldn't leave it out in the rain, why leave it to suffer temperature extremes?

[DVA]

What about high temperature storage. The hottest day I remember in Arizona was 122°F (remember that ambient temperature is measured in the shade). The airport was shut down because airplanes only had charts that went to 120°F.

[67cudafb]

Ahh just another fall day in Arizona. I thought in got hot in north Florida yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[performance]

Duty cycle is rated at 104 degrees. Operation above that seriously decreases duty cycle. This is the standard rating temp in the industry. No storage above 120 is recommended.

[DVA]

Ahh just another fall day in Arizona. I thought in got hot in north Florida yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is a link regaring the 122°F day and the airplanes.

http://phoenix.about.com/od/phoenixf...celflights.htm

[DVA]

Duty cycle is rated at 104 degrees. Operation above that seriously decreases duty cycle. This is the standard rating temp in the industry. No storage above 120 is recommended.

Most electrical calculations and design of Nuclear plants use 104°F for equipment qualification. I would assume this must stem from the Arrhenius equation (I typically refer to this as the erroneous equation).

[zoama]

Electrolytic capacitors can dry out as well as freeze.

[redbeard]

I remember that day, driving through Papago park with no A/C and the windows down. The only time I miss living there is January.

[Tritium]

This entire thread troubles me a lot. My shop is neither heated or cooled and my wife "made a less than happy face" when I told her my PowerUltra 205P was moving into the house for the winter and possibly for most of the summer as well. My future problem will be what to do (with future LARGER Everlast equipment that is purchased, 250EXT for starters ) in seasons that the environment in my shop may fall outside of the equipment storage specifications. I absolutely KNOW "Larger Equipment" will not be approved for House occupation by "She Who Must Be Obeyed".

Conditioning (Insulation, Heating and cooling) the shop (30X30X16) is out of the question because I would have no money left for previously stated equipment purchases for a number of YEARS!

Possibly a Small enclosed conditioned equipment storage area within the shop but even that will delay additional equipment purchases for some period of time.

What to do?

Thurmond

[geezer]

This entire thread troubles me a lot. My shop is neither heated or cooled and my wife "made a less than happy face" when I told her my PowerUltra 205P was moving into the house for the winter and possibly for most of the summer as well. My future problem will be what to do (with future LARGER Everlast equipment that is purchased, 250EXT for starters ) in seasons that the environment in my shop may fall outside of the equipment storage specifications. I absolutely KNOW "Larger Equipment" will not be approved for House occupation by "She Who Must Be Obeyed".

Conditioning (Insulation, Heating and cooling) the shop (30X30X16) is out of the question because I would have no money left for previously stated equipment purchases for a number of YEARS!

Possibly a Small enclosed conditioned equipment storage area within the shop but even that will delay additional equipment purchases for some period of time.

What to do?

Thurmond

A small light bulb in an encloser can do wonders, I have worked in minus 30 and minus 40 temps when the only thing keeping the outhouse in camp from being intolerable was a light bulb; thank goodness those days are behind me but the light bulb did keep our butts from freezing to the seat. Nowadays they have temperature cubes and the like which turn on and off at diff. temps, I'm sure you will figure something out.

I'm a Rumpole fan myself. (she who must be obeyed)

[sportbike]

This entire thread troubles me a lot. My shop is neither heated or cooled and my wife "made a less than happy face" when I told her my PowerUltra 205P was moving into the house for the winter and possibly for most of the summer as well. My future problem will be what to do (with future LARGER Everlast equipment that is purchased, 250EXT for starters ) in seasons that the environment in my shop may fall outside of the equipment storage specifications. I absolutely KNOW "Larger Equipment" will not be approved for House occupation by "She Who Must Be Obeyed".

Conditioning (Insulation, Heating and cooling) the shop (30X30X16) is out of the question because I would have no money left for previously stated equipment purchases for a number of YEARS!

Possibly a Small enclosed conditioned equipment storage area within the shop but even that will delay additional equipment purchases for some period of time.

What to do?

Thurmond

Wow. What part of TX are you in where it gets below 15 degrees on a regular basis? It has been down to about 17 here in PA so far in early December.
How often is it really above 120 degrees air temp?

[todmorg]

A small light bulb in an encloser can do wonders, I have worked in minus 30 and minus 40 temps when the only thing keeping the outhouse in camp from being intolerable was a light bulb; thank goodness those days are behind me but the light bulb did keep our butts from freezing to the seat. Nowadays they have temperature cubes and the like which turn on and off at diff. temps, I'm sure you will figure something out.

I'm a Rumpole fan myself. (she who must be obeyed)

A light bulb in the outhouse is good, but there is nothing more comfortable or warmer than a blueboard/styrofoam toilet seat. ( -30 Wisconsn approved! )

[dennis]

My old shop had no heat and the cure was a tiny shed in the corner with a cheap pump house heater. It shut off at 40 degrees. It held the welders and other tools that should not freeze. I feel your pain, my new everlast just got kicked out of the dwelling and forced to reside in the garage by the woman who claims all furnished areas to be tool free. I think a tiny space heater and a insulated box would work well.

[hooda]

This entire thread troubles me a lot. My shop is neither heated or cooled and my wife "made a less than happy face" when I told her my PowerUltra 205P was moving into the house for the winter and possibly for most of the summer as well. My future problem will be what to do (with future LARGER Everlast equipment that is purchased, 250EXT for starters ) in seasons that the environment in my shop may fall outside of the equipment storage specifications. I absolutely KNOW "Larger Equipment" will not be approved for House occupation by "She Who Must Be Obeyed".

Conditioning (Insulation, Heating and cooling) the shop (30X30X16) is out of the question because I would have no money left for previously stated equipment purchases for a number of YEARS!

Possibly a Small enclosed conditioned equipment storage area within the shop but even that will delay additional equipment purchases for some period of time.

What to do?

Thurmond

HeyThurmond! How about make a wooden cover for the unit. I'm thinking using 2x2 construction lumber, use the small metal corner braces available at the depot (cheaper then the hardware store) to hold things together, then sandwice some fiberglass insulation between 2 layers of particle board (or get snazzy and use the "tileboard" used in bathrooms) Make the box such that you can put a light bulb fixture- I saw these ones at the big box that have a 10" aluminum reflector and plug-in on 1 end for $8.00. stick in a 60-100 watt bulb, mount a $6.00 timer so the light is on only during the cold hours, and you're in business. Total material cost-about $65.00 for EVERYTHING. This is what we used to do for the water pump at an old farn that I want to work at as a kid. Only advice I can give you is 1. put some forethought into how to keep your box firesafe (clearance for the bulb-which is why I suggested the one with the reflector). 2. If you think it through, this could be put together in such a manner as to be broken down and stored over the warm months. Good Luck!