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    Default I hate to be that guy..... BUT....

    I hate it when guys post stuff like this in other forums. But I very new to TIG welding. New as in I never done it before. I can weld stick and mig. Never tig.

    I just bought a PowerTIG 200 DX. Will be here in a few days.

    My question is, what are the "general" settings for steel ( angle iron, square tubing), aluminum, and stainless?

    So I can have a cheat sheet. And fine tune for my needs later. I just need a base line to start with.


    Thanks, and sorry for being the new guy.
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    Not a problem ,,,we all have to learn things at one time or another,,,as far as general settings go,,,the best reference I can suggest is the CK World wide Tech manual...the charts on there will give you an indication on choosing electrode size, amp ranges,,litre flows and using the right cupsize for the electrode,,,the bottom of pages 3,,4,, and six have charts showing these things as far a pulse and freq settings,,,watching a few videos on Welding tricks and tips with Jody is your best bet for those...

    http://www.ckworldwide.com/technical.htm

    Hope this helps,,,,it's good reading and the charts will point the way for you...
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    Holy crap. Thanks!

    That manual really takes the guess work out of a lot of stuff.
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    DC for steel is whatever amperage is needed. Typically they say 1 amp per thousandths of metal thickness. give or take some(i.e. .065 wall tubing takes about 60-70 amps). You can mess with the pulse stuff but thats just getting into it and playing with it mainly. Thats about it for DC. AC is similar for the amp amount but aluminum takes more sometimes in the thicker ranges due to it being a really good heat sink. AC balance 30 is a good starting point and frequency 100-120 is pretty good for most things. You can check out Jody's recommendations on weldingtipsandtricks.com and watch his 250ex videos. Has a lot of good info in there. Those videos are in the stickies in the gtaw forum here. Hope that helps some. Oh and argon is 12-20 cfh is a general. The everlast regulator is not in cfh though so it has to be converted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdub View Post
    DC for steel is whatever amperage is needed. Typically they say 1 amp per thousandths of metal thickness. give or take some(i.e. .065 wall tubing takes about 60-70 amps). You can mess with the pulse stuff but thats just getting into it and playing with it mainly. Thats about it for DC. AC is similar for the amp amount but aluminum takes more sometimes in the thicker ranges due to it being a really good heat sink. AC balance 30 is a good starting point and frequency 100-120 is pretty good for most things. You can check out Jody's recommendations on weldingtipsandtricks.com and watch his 250ex videos. Has a lot of good info in there. Those videos are in the stickies in the gtaw forum here. Hope that helps some. Oh and argon is 12-20 cfh is a general. The everlast regulator is not in cfh though so it has to be converted.
    Kbub if you have one in litres you don't need to convert, the reccomended litre flows are the same as the cup size except as you get near 200 amps up the litre flow by one,,,,you can view this in the CK world wide manual to verify it.....litres is better than CFH when it comes to tig
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    So what would it be on the stock regulator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    So what would it be on the stock regulator?
    Depends on what you call a stock regulator,,,,CFH & Litres are about 2 to 1,,,,if your cup size is 6 then 6 litres is good,,,or 12 CFH if you have an imperial regulator,,a lot of flow regs are in litres some marked in Litres & CFH...I prefer litres on gas flow cause it's easy to match to cup size,,,but then again it also easy to multiply by 2 for CFH reg's,,,depends on what you have and what you are use too,,,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer View Post
    Depends on what you call a stock regulator,,,,CFH & Litres are about 2 to 1,,,,if your cup size is 6 then 6 litres is good,,,or 12 CFH if you have an imperial regulator,,a lot of flow regs are in litres some marked in Litres & CFH...I prefer litres on gas flow cause it's easy to match to cup size,,,but then again it also easy to multiply by 2 for CFH reg's,,,depends on what you have and what you are use too,,,,
    Well whatever mine is coming with. It will be at my house on the 26th.

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    Holy crap! There is even a app for a smart phone! Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    So what would it be on the stock regulator?
    I believe the Everlast unit's regulators are in liters...that is what my IMIG200 has. If you want to convert: there is 1000 cubic centimeters in one liter. Now to convert cc to cubic inches: there is ~ 2.54 cc in one ci, and it is cubed so you will have to cc/(2.54^3) or cc/(2.54x2.54x2.54). There is 12 inches in one foot, and it's cubed so: ci/(12x12x12). Then you multiply it by 60 to get cf per hour vs minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MigPlazArc View Post
    There is 12 ci in one cubic foot so: ci/(12x12x12).
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    A more exact conversion value is 2.1188 CFH for 1 L/min ,,,but why complicate things ,,,,using a value of 2 CFH for every L/min is close enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    My question is, what are the "general" settings for steel ( angle iron, square tubing), aluminum, and stainless?

    So I can have a cheat sheet. And fine tune for my needs later. I just need a base line to start with.
    I seen your post on the other thread... Just couldn't find any pics or threads that could be of a good help. Thought someone would chime in. I know I have been asking a lot of new guy questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I hate it when guys post stuff like this in other forums. But I very new to TIG welding. New as in I never done it before. I can weld stick and mig. Never tig.

    I just bought a PowerTIG 200 DX. Will be here in a few days.

    My question is, what are the "general" settings for steel ( angle iron, square tubing), aluminum, and stainless?

    So I can have a cheat sheet. And fine tune for my needs later. I just need a base line to start with.


    Thanks, and sorry for being the new guy.
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    If you are here, then you know about google.com. You will also find Miller, ESAB (has their university on CDs), and many good sites on the net to read. Also Everlast has calculators online.

    All of the above will get you in range, but the tweaking is all about you.

    Best to post what you are going be welding and someone here will help you far as settings. Also http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com is a good place to start. Lots of visual info. Some are using our equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    .......Also Everlast has calculators online.......
    I would've put up the everlast calculator but I didn't want to cause confusion with it being slighty broken.> Click image for larger version. 

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    Hi
    You should go to weldingtipsandtricks.com a ton of great videos on Tig as well as mig and stick.
    I have picked up a lot of good information from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post

    Best to post what you are going be welding and someone here will help you far as settings. Also http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com is a good place to start. Lots of visual info. Some are using our equipment.
    Jody from weldingtipsandtricks.com is the main reason I bought a Everlast. But he is long winded. Whew he can talk. I get why though. And I think he is a great guy. or from what I see from the videos.

    Honestly, I never ran a Everlast before. But, I have never heard anything bad about the machines. And I do lots of research. The only negative thing I heard was that it's a Chinese machine and I should buy American.

    Well they will have to lower their price some, and just because it's American doesn't mean it's good. Like someone else said on here, this is a global world, and you just can't be stuck one a product from on origin. Hell, I own a Hyundai (wife's), and a Toyota. Even the American stuff isn't all American. Is a Ford truck is %100 American made? Nope. I bet, if you opened up a Miller or a Lincoln, some of the parts are imported. You can't tell me different.

    I have high hopes for my machine. I can't wait to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 225 View Post
    I hate it when guys post stuff like this in other forums. But I very new to TIG welding. New as in I never done it before. I can weld stick and mig. Never tig.

    I just bought a PowerTIG 200 DX. Will be here in a few days.

    My question is, what are the "general" settings for steel ( angle iron, square tubing), aluminum, and stainless?

    So I can have a cheat sheet. And fine tune for my needs later. I just need a base line to start with.


    Thanks, and sorry for being the new guy.
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    I think Everlast likes people to post...and if you don't ask you don't find out. The forum is here for this. I have never tig welded so I can't tell you much..
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