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    Cool Is it safe?

    Hi there. I have been looking at inverter welders for a little while. Between all the added features and not needing a forklift to move them around, plus the space savings, I think it would be perfect for me. The lower power consumption is the icing on the cake. I could never justify the cost of blue or red, but green is looking pretty good to me.
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    Of course they are safe
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    Welding is an unsafe occupation....Let's make that clear to begin with. People die each year due to electrocution, and severe burns received related to welding. Yes, in some conditions, you can receive a lethal shock form almost any welder...but not more or less so with ours.

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    Actually, I was just quoting the movie "Marathon Man".
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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Welding is an unsafe occupation....Let's make that clear to begin with. People die each year due to electrocution, and severe burns received related to welding. Yes, in some conditions, you can receive a lethal shock form almost any welder...but not more or less so with ours.
    Common sense goes a long way.

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    Actually, I was just quoting the movie "Marathon Man".
    . Great scene!
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    So i guess standing in a bucket of water while welding is unsafe lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Welding is an unsafe occupation....Let's make that clear to begin with. People die each year due to electrocution, and severe burns received related to welding. Yes, in some conditions, you can receive a lethal shock form almost any welder...but not more or less so with ours.
    Never ceases to amaze me how product material needs to loudly pronounce what I think is a bit obvious. Using temperatures high enough to melt metal by utilizing electrical arcs that create blindingly bright light. How can anyone NOT think it is dangerous!

    I was reading a label the other day on a can of peanuts. In large print it said, * ALLERGY WARNING - CONTAINS PEANUTS *.
    Is it OK to want to break something just so that you can weld it back together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by undercut View Post
    Never ceases to amaze me how product material needs to loudly pronounce what I think is a bit obvious. Using temperatures high enough to melt metal by utilizing electrical arcs that create blindingly bright light. How can anyone NOT think it is dangerous!

    I was reading a label the other day on a can of peanuts. In large print it said, * ALLERGY WARNING - CONTAINS PEANUTS *.
    With the light regard given toward welding safety and the trivial way it is presented in so many reality shows that feature fabrication and welding, most people glamorize it and along the way forget the shear danger of it. FWIW, you do NOT need to be standing in a bucket of water to get a lethal shock...just a little sweaty or find your heart in the path the electricity decides to take to finding ground.

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    I have got zapped with my sweaty arm laying on the metal mig welding it wakes you up lol arm was numb for about a half and hour . really i have more problems catching myself on fire when welding always ether have a pant leg on fire or my shirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodsmachineshop View Post
    I have got zapped with my sweaty arm laying on the metal mig welding it wakes you up lol arm was numb for about a half and hour
    ouch...
    "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyze so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance."

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    sweat is a magnet for shocks
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    zzzzap

    Any suggestions for not getting shocked? I'd rather not get zapped, lol.

    Just a matter of making sure no bare skin is around anything conductive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncsugrad2006 View Post
    zzzzap

    Any suggestions for not getting shocked? I'd rather not get zapped, lol.

    Just a matter of making sure no bare skin is around anything conductive?
    Pretty much. Make sure your clothes and gloves remain dry, including when you are sweating.
    "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyze so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance."

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    If you feel you are sweating much and shirt and gloves get damp just switch it out with another shirt.
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    Speaking of safe and welding... I was always wondering about getting a shock. I have heard and seen guy that would change out rods on a stick welder without gloves while it is on... Does the flux insulate the rod or are these guys just lucky??? What do you stick welders do???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ski View Post
    I have heard and seen guy that would change out rods on a stick welder without gloves while it is on... Does the flux insulate the rod or are these guys just lucky???

    Definitely wear gloves, and if I think my gloves may be sweaty, I'll turn the machine off to swap rods ( and gloves). Remember that when you do not have an arc struck, you are holding and open, high resistance circuit in your hands. All you need to do is provide the electricity with a lower resistance path via your sweaty or ungloved hand.

    Here's an interesting article that puts things in perspective: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face/stateface/mi/03mi193.html

    With everything this poor guy did wrong, it appears that changing rods with out gloves killed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by posixPilot View Post
    Definitely wear gloves, and if I think my gloves may be sweaty, I'll turn the machine off to swap rods ( and gloves). Remember that when you do not have an arc struck, you are holding and open, high resistance circuit in your hands. All you need to do is provide the electricity with a lower resistance path via your sweaty or ungloved hand.

    Here's an interesting article that puts things in perspective: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/face/stateface/mi/03mi193.html

    With everything this poor guy did wrong, it appears that changing rods with out gloves killed him.

    Cheers
    Mike
    The link is amazing ... it's like I was telling someone the other day ... you can get away with not following safety guidelines maybe a hundred times but that 101 time will get ya ... best to work smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ski View Post
    Speaking of safe and welding... I was always wondering about getting a shock. I have heard and seen guy that would change out rods on a stick welder without gloves while it is on... Does the flux insulate the rod or are these guys just lucky??? What do you stick welders do???
    It sounds like that guy should start playing the lottery.
    "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyze so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance."

    - Dr. AR Dykes

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiefd View Post
    It sounds like that guy should start playing the lottery.
    I asked the guy and he said it was fine but he uses dry clean rods.
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    It wont shock you if are not touching the grounded metal or ground. The flux provides insulation on the rod... but if it has a bad spot or is wet electricity can pass through it. So still wear gloves especially if you are on the grounded metal. The only way it will shock you if it finds a path to ground. Gloves will provide you with the insulation most of the time.
    Gabe
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