I have found that people always think that throwing in a bunch of tore up, poorly stored 7018 rods is a good thing when selling a stick welder. I've recieved probably 50+lbs of ate up 7018's this way. It's become the way I determine if I'm buying from an actual welder or a hack. For example, my Miller T-bolt debacle, I got 20lbs of 7018 crap. Should have been a clue, but I was ignorant too. My Miller DEL200, I got a sealed 10lb can of 7018, but also a 50lb case of 6010 5P. That was a winning deal and 100% honest from a craftsman, not some scrub who dabbled and got bored.

Anyone else notice similar? S/F.....Ken M