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    Just received the final update unit (cosmetic changes). So far impressed and it is not out of the box yet. I will snap pictures later.

    Packaging stronger, lower profile pedal, stinger is clamp style. Little things people complain about getting fixed. It looks like a WP26 torch (I will live) and I will swap that out after playing with it first. Has a black handle over the chrome, looks meaner. Also small and light compared to the 250EX.

    All in all, excited. I have not pulled it from the box, just popped the top open.

    More later. Will see if I can break away from all the knob/settings at a glance.

    If you pre-ordered you should have yours by now as mine went from Ca to Fl.

    Anyone else here on the forum get theirs??
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    Some pictures below. I don't have a spare 50 amp plug (will pull one off a unit or get one tomorrow), but the IMAX said 23amp/230vac, also, 210amps at 40%.

    Basically, if the imax is correct it will get a twist lock 30 amp and this unit could replace my 250EX and the 160STH. And the size it a major plus (8.5W x 16H x 18D). The 250EX will probably always be the shop machine, but I think this unit will be a great AC/DC TIG and portable TIG as well.


    The package. Wait.. There was no manual in the box? Don't need a manual anyway. Only two collect sizes and a 26 torch, but if that is the only disappointing part. Not bad
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    Display, more I looked at is, the simpler it became, fist glance was I like all the knobs.
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    The front.
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    Specs if the android did its jobs...
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    Mike R.
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    Is that the torch with the finger amp control that was pictured in one of the other threads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    Is that the torch with the finger amp control that was pictured in one of the other threads?
    It doesn't have the thumb control, the grey fooled me too. But the pedal is much nicer than our older pedal.

    Comes with a 1/16" and 3/32" collet. For the amps that is fine. Touch is nice but no water cooled, again, for the amps it is fine.

    The quick connect for the gas, I have to ask Mark what kind and pick on up tomorrow. And there was not one in the package, or hose or regulator. I will have to ask Oleg is that is normal, or because it was send to me and I have all that (not the quick connect though).

    I did wire it up for 30 amps and played with it (control panel, not weld). I like it a lot (after watching Mark's video). I will probably not bother using the presets. It is so simple to change the settings, I thought I was gonna hate that part.

    Have not welded with it yet, have a stainless project, but I think I will wait until tomorrow night to do it. Jody seemed to like the unit, so I will assume the output side is typical Everlast IGBT inverter and works as well as any blue unit.
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    That is one nice looking machine. Didn't DaveO win one in the last contest? Man that would be awesome!

    I see the size is a little smaller than a 200DX , how about weight?
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    Great looking machine and can't wait for the reviews. Thanks for posting the pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparCar View Post
    Great looking machine and can't wait for the reviews. Thanks for posting the pictures.
    Slight delay. Mine shipped without the argon quick connect. Will see today if I can rig something, looking to try it on a project, but project must be done by Sat, so old trusty 250EX will save the day.

    The panel is a dream to work not seeing the knobs I am sure will not bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneJackson View Post
    That is one nice looking machine. Didn't DaveO win one in the last contest?
    Yes! I've been subject to the machine's availability too, though, and have been patiently... patiently... patiently... did I mention patiently?... waiting. Just heard from Oleg last night, as a matter of fact. Very much looking forward to trying it out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    Yes! I've been subject to the machine's availability too, though, and have been patiently... patiently... patiently... did I mention patiently?... waiting. Just heard from Oleg last night, as a matter of fact. Very much looking forward to trying it out!
    I got lucky, normally I am the last since so far and customers come first. Virginia might be as bad as Florida too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    I got lucky, normally I am the last since so far and customers come first. Virginia might be as bad as Florida too.
    I've been figuring on the same: if machines were slotted for customers I assumed I would be low on the priority list. I've been thinking about that long trip via UPS or whoever from West Coast to East Coast, and in my mind feeling every bump on the highway, but the IMIG showed up just fine. No use worrying until there's actually something to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveO View Post
    I've been figuring on the same: if machines were slotted for customers I assumed I would be low on the priority list. I've been thinking about that long trip via UPS or whoever from West Coast to East Coast, and in my mind feeling every bump on the highway, but the IMIG showed up just fine. No use worrying until there's actually something to worry about.
    The packaging is a lot better. Yours should be there soon, mine did not get here until yesterday. Waited from Feb For the last kinks to be worked out. It will be worth the wait.

    The unit looks fantastic.
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    Dave,
    No worries on this unit as far as shipping, IF the units are still in the same box. The cardboard on the unit they shipped from the factory was a special type, almost 3/4" thick with thicker foam around the ends. Maybe Mike can give a clue as to what the production units actually have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Dave,
    No worries on this unit as far as shipping, IF the units are still in the same box. The cardboard on the unit they shipped from the factory was a special type, almost 3/4" thick with thicker foam around the ends. Maybe Mike can give a clue as to what the production units actually have.
    I can take a picture of it, built well. No damage from the outside. It has a lift off top, and thick, thick cardboard like you mentioned. Thick foam top and bottom as well.
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    Top has re-enforced corners, handles in the sides and like Mark mentioned 3/4" thick sides
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    Unless they make it a multivoltage unit like a Dynasty, I can't see this replacing a 160STH in my inventory. Dual voltage has saved my bacon a couple times now, with stick anyways. I would consider this as a replacement for 220DX,225LX but for what I do(overwhelmingly steel), I just can't justify the price difference. Call me old fashioned, but I like individual knobs and such. If I was doing aluminum fab stuff, I'd see it different. S/F.....Ken M
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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoSixMike View Post
    Unless they make it a multivoltage unit like a Dynasty, I can't see this replacing a 160STH in my inventory. Dual voltage has saved my bacon a couple times now, with stick anyways. I would consider this as a replacement for 220DX,225LX but for what I do(overwhelmingly steel), I just can't justify the price difference. Call me old fashioned, but I like individual knobs and such. If I was doing aluminum fab stuff, I'd see it different. S/F.....Ken M
    Good point and when I saw the 23-26 amp, my first thought is, we need this in 110VAC...

    The multi-voltage is a good thing (though I have never used 110vac other than on plasma, but wanted it just in case like the PA160). The 210EXT is 30amps, so a generator will cover me there.

    Dang. So I have to keep the 160STH. Maybe the 250EX will go (kidding). I will fire it up today. Man I need more room. Maybe Rod needs a roomate.

    Side note, the 210EXT so far can replace the DX, LX and EX for the most part, to be fair.

    Mike, if you read any of my posted on the new EXT series, I mentioned I doubt I will ever not want to glance and see the knobs. This was far from what I thought it would be. I know where I set them (in my head based on the metal/thickness and not analog knobs settings either). And it takes seconds to see and change them settings.

    To be honest, I will probably keep them all. They each have features that make me need them. I forgot about the 110 on the 160STH. Maybe I will drop a 110vac plug on it this weekend. Should be able to get 80-90 amps TIG wise. I just really think I am going to like the EXT so far.

    NOTE, I have not done any welds with it (to confirm the changes on the fly). I have determined the presets do nothing for me. They do not save the 2T/4T AC/DC MODE and HF, so I see no reason to use them as we never get the same job twice TIG wise).

    I wanted to use the presets, 1 = anything on the fly, 2=aluminum, 3=steel. But without the AC/DC saving, easier to just hit AC/DC button.

    For me HF always on. If steel, hit DC, else hit AC (normally run 100hz and -25 on AC and they are saved now as default in preset 1). Push function knob, click to each spot and set (by a push, turn and push). Then weld. Pretty simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post

    I wanted to use the presets, 1 = anything on the fly, 2=aluminum, 3=steel. But without the AC/DC saving, easier to just hit AC/DC button.
    Kind of odd that the AC/DC does not save? Seems it would just be controlled by the software anyway. I woudl think knobs woudl be a bit easier to switch from steel to aluminum settings since you can see which ones you forgot to turn.

    Does it at least save your EP settings and frequency if you set them in AC, then go to DC, then switch back to AC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportbike View Post
    Kind of odd that the AC/DC does not save? Seems it would just be controlled by the software anyway.
    Seems really odd to me, too. I would expect it to save everything or what's the point. Something for the first software patch. Speaking of which, is there any provision to do software updates in the field, such as a JTAG port?
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    I asked Mark about that (flashing the unit), I think it has an Atmel inside so I would guess it can be updated.

    I got it all hooked up last night but the guy did not get the drawings to me for the project and did not answer his phone. So I am sure it will get used today with the 26 torch, thin stainless, so not a big deal.

    I'll re-check, but I am pretty sure it did not save the AC/DC and a couple other items. The presets are a good idea, they just don't save it all so I will not use them myself.

    Yes, it does save the EP and freq but you still have to hit AC for that preset (so a little odd). Look like something that needs to be fixed. Mark can relay that to the factory after I confirm it again today. But pretty darn sure it doesn't' save AC/DC, HF (but HF does default ON), etc I would expect it too.

    Looks like maybe it saves the knobs but not the buttons. And like I said, easy enough to tap the buttons. I am OK with it the way it is, just thought 1=aluminum (just set amps) 2-steel (just set amps), etc would make since for the presets, then tweak amps.
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    Mike, I need to check, I think the program does save, but you have to select programs for AC, DC, and stick first, but each has 10???Got to check it out this week. IF you make a change to the setting in the program, while welding or anytime you have the program, the last setting on that channel will automatically be saved.
    Last edited by performance; 09-23-2012 at 11:06 PM.

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