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    Default CK20 for a 200DX?

    Since breaking my hand, then re-fracturing it yesterday, I can see this is going to take some time... I am having a hell of a time wrangling the torch and cable that came with the machine. I thought I read somewhere that the dinse that came on the Everlast torch could be re-used? Not a whole lot of spare cash right now, so any savings I can will help. Since the CK20 is a water cooled 250 amp torch, I can't really see an immediate need to go back to the stock torch, I could buy another connector down the road.

    Anyone know if that's do-able? I'm looking at the CK20, regular head, no valve, 25' with flex cable from WeldFabulous, it's under 90. I may be able to squeeze that and enough for a consumables set out of my budget.
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    Have you looked at our torch options for a smaller torch? We have a 20 series with a flex head and small barrel as well as a 9 if you want small and flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Have you looked at our torch options for a smaller torch? We have a 20 series with a flex head and small barrel as well as a 9 if you want small and flexible.
    I did, but the price is near double and it didn't have the superflex hose (which I probably could do without, but the price is still double)
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    http://www.weldfabulous.com/p-77564-...d-torches.aspx These are nice if you can go another $43 add LG to the end of the part number for an everlast gas QC (same price)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trip59 View Post
    Since breaking my hand, then re-fracturing it yesterday, I can see this is going to take some time... I am having a hell of a time wrangling the torch and cable that came with the machine. I thought I read somewhere that the dinse that came on the Everlast torch could be re-used? Not a whole lot of spare cash right now, so any savings I can will help. Since the CK20 is a water cooled 250 amp torch, I can't really see an immediate need to go back to the stock torch, I could buy another connector down the road.

    Anyone know if that's do-able? I'm looking at the CK20, regular head, no valve, 25' with flex cable from WeldFabulous, it's under 90. I may be able to squeeze that and enough for a consumables set out of my budget.
    It's not compatable with the everlast dinse... there wouldn't be room for an adapter inside it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoama585 View Post
    It's not compatable with the everlast dinse... there wouldn't be room for an adapter inside it.

    Ok, thanks. Guess I may have to wait...
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    Trip,
    Everlast customers are treated special on torches...but you also forget that these come ready to go, plumbed up with the dinse connector. That is another 40.00 you have to spend. Also ours come with the remote switch so you can still use the 2T 4T function. That's quite a value if you compare to our competitors...AND it is flex neck, which with your broken hand condition is a life saver. I did not see where the CK20 regular torch is flex head. Also, I think we are discussing some "flexible" alternatives to the standard line as well, which may be available soon. The other thing I'd say about it, is that the torches we sell as options are MUCH more flexible than the regular economy type torches we send with the units. Also I guess you are aware that the CK 20 is water cooled? (which ours are too.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Trip,
    Everlast customers are treated special on torches...but you also forget that these come ready to go, plumbed up with the dinse connector. That is another 40.00 you have to spend. Also ours come with the remote switch so you can still use the 2T 4T function. That's quite a value if you compare to our competitors...AND it is flex neck, which with your broken hand condition is a life saver. I did not see where the CK20 regular torch is flex head. Also, I think we are discussing some "flexible" alternatives to the standard line as well, which may be available soon. The other thing I'd say about it, is that the torches we sell as options are MUCH more flexible than the regular economy type torches we send with the units. Also I guess you are aware that the CK 20 is water cooled? (which ours are too.)
    There's the flex head CK20, I might have grabbed the wrong link, it was like $4 more or something... I'll give a ring in sometime this week and see what they can do. I'd much rather buy it ready to go from you guys, I'm thrilled with the 200DX and plan to pick up both a MIG and Plasma within the next 6 months (as soon as I can get my finances out of the toilet) and I rave about you guys everytime a 'I'm looking at ________ welder' comes up. The price is the main point, some other comments from random threads as well, but mainly the price.
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    Trip - sorry to hear about the hand injury (that does not sound fun at all...)

    FYI, I've also checked out the Everlast WP-20F in person, and it's pretty decent quality-wise - good quality materials, brazed construction, screw-on hose connections (rather than relying on safety-wire style clamps). And everything is ready to plug into an Everlast machine. As you've correctly noted, its only downside really are that the hoses are vinyl.

    Here's yet another option to throw in the mix, with "superflex style" hoses (silicone rubber with textile overbraid)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WP20F-12R-TI...item4abb44bece
    Like the other aftermarket torch options, it probably need adapters (or modification) to make hook up properly, though. A torch switch can be real handy for welding out of position (I use my torch switch for any welding that isn't on the bench top, pretty much.)

    What are you going to do for your cooler?
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    No final plans for cooler yet, most likely run through the sink initially. I have a handful of pumps, just need to compare pressure and flow ratings. Water isn't too hard, shouldn't be an issue. Will build a proper cooler in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Trip,
    Everlast customers are treated special on torches...but you also forget that these come ready to go, plumbed up with the dinse connector. That is another 40.00 you have to spend. Also ours come with the remote switch so you can still use the 2T 4T function. That's quite a value if you compare to our competitors...AND it is flex neck, which with your broken hand condition is a life saver. I did not see where the CK20 regular torch is flex head. Also, I think we are discussing some "flexible" alternatives to the standard line as well, which may be available soon. The other thing I'd say about it, is that the torches we sell as options are MUCH more flexible than the regular economy type torches we send with the units. Also I guess you are aware that the CK 20 is water cooled? (which ours are too.)
    Ok, so I called in, price works for me on a 25' torch. He mentioned it was the same style handle as the one I have now, but it was smaller... didn't think to ask, but does anyone have a pic, maybe a pic together, comparing the European style WP20 and WP26?
    Trip Bauer
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    Without a water solenoid valve, remember you will have to start and stop the water and it will run all the time, not just during arc on time.
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