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    Default Qustion About MotorGuard Air Filters

    Does anyone know what the difference is between the M30 & M60 filters are.
    I can't see any difference, they take the same cartridge, same inlet & outlet port size & flow the same amount of air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry View Post
    Does anyone know what the difference is between the M30 & M60 filters are.
    I can't see any difference, they take the same cartridge, same inlet & outlet port size & flow the same amount of air.
    The only difference is the inlet/outlet size (m30 is 1/4" npt, m60 is 1/2" npt). Be sure to buy the kit, which includes 3 filters. http://www.tooltopia.com/motorguard-m45.aspx
    Last edited by zoama; 11-22-2012 at 07:45 PM.
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    Thanks, I couldn't see any difference in the spec's last night when I was looking at them.
    The M30 should work fine.
    Ever have one freeze up in cold weather ??
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    Just ordered a M45 kit. Now just have to get a hose lead & fittings to connect it to the PP50 when they both come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry View Post
    Just ordered a M45 kit. Now just have to get a hose lead & fittings to connect it to the PP50 when they both come.
    You can buy a cheap 10' air hose, cut off the piece you need and put a quick coupling on the end and on the air dryer. Similar to this Click image for larger version. 

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    I used 1/4 to 1/2 bushings (not needed for M30) and put a male QC on both sides of my air dryer so I can just plug it in like any other air tool.
    Last edited by zoama; 11-22-2012 at 07:49 PM.
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    Nice setup. Did you make it so the regulator/filter unit can be disconnected from the cutter, so the unit can be transported without having to worry about bumping and breaking the regulator ?
    My unit will get kept in the house when not in use, so it will get moved around a bit. I'll have to look over the regulator/filter unit that comes with it and see about making a quick disconnect bracket for it, which shouldn't be hard to make. That way the regulator and M30 dryer can be stored in a tool tote along with the torch & ground cable.
    Not sure if my PP50 will come next week or not, UPS in not running ground service tomorrow, only next day air service. So it won't get shipped out till sometime Monday which gives me sometime to get a plug & some fittings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry View Post
    Nice setup. Did you make it so the regulator/filter unit can be disconnected from the cutter, so the unit can be transported without having to worry about bumping and breaking the regulator ?
    My unit will get kept in the house when not in use, so it will get moved around a bit. I'll have to look over the regulator/filter unit that comes with it and see about making a quick disconnect bracket for it, which shouldn't be hard to make. That way the regulator and M30 dryer can be stored in a tool tote along with the torch & ground cable.
    Not sure if my PP50 will come next week or not, UPS in not running ground service tomorrow, only next day air service. So it won't get shipped out till sometime Monday which gives me sometime to get a plug & some fittings.
    My pic was a PP256, the PP50 has an internal regulator so there's nothing to bump. I don't have the regulator mounted on the 256 anymore since I got a PP60... I have a male QC on my argon regulator hose and took those pics to show how I switched between cutting and welding.
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    I have a Franzinator just prior to the Motorguard I have and the filters lasts a whole lot longer.

    Get the water and oil to separate from the air first and then let the motorguard do its thing. It really gives me some pretty clean dry air. I can dry out a wet towel by airing it with a blow gun quickly as the air is so dry. My consumables last way longer and my cuts are as smooth as a babies behind.
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    Went to Lowes after work today, got several couplers & ends, 50 amp plug & 1/4" nipple, only thing left is the coiled hose. Should have got that at the Tractor store when I was there. I can get that later, all I need now is the Motorguard and the cutter.
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    I got the Motor Guard Filter, wish now I would have got the M60 with the 1/2" ports which are on the top of the filter. 1/2 to 1/4 bushing and I could have screwed the water/oil separator into the filter and saved some brass fittings and away to mount the separator..
    The cutter will be here tomorrow, I'll have to wait and see what's, what's then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry View Post
    I got the Motor Guard Filter, wish now I would have got the M60 with the 1/2" ports which are on the top of the filter. 1/2 to 1/4 bushing and I could have screwed the water/oil separator into the filter and saved some brass fittings and away to mount the separator..
    The cutter will be here tomorrow, I'll have to wait and see what's, what's then.
    What's the fitting size on the one you got ?
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    1/4" on the bottom of the filterClick image for larger version. 

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