Newbie Question - Downside to Gas Lens?

[zank]

I also use a CK130 (mine has a flex head). It's a great torch. Easy to maneuver.

[everlastsupport]

Thank you. That's not brushed. That's as-welded. You can see some straw color where I started to outrun my shielding on the left side of the joint. You can also see a little straw color adjacent to the weld all the way around.

Yea, on the titanium I could see it, even the very very little in the middle. Very nice TIG weld(s).

Are you one of the owners of ZCC (ZanK name makes me ask).?

On the gas lens you can save a little gas and get more stickout. Not a bad deal at all.

[zank]

Yeah, that's me. One man shop here.

[everlastsupport]

Yeah, that's me. One man shop here.

Nothing wrong with that, looks like the talent is there to handle it. And better, no one to argue with but you.

[youngnstudly]

Visibility can be blocked by the larger diameter gas lens...
But the glaringly obvious issue that I see here is the fact you have ignored the warranty! You should have tested your unit as soon as you received it. IF there are any shipping issues/damage, it will likely be up to you. You are supposed to test and FULLY inspect the unit promplty after receiving it. The reason I bring this up is this also affects our ability to determine what happened to the unit, and will send you past the 30 day warranty period. Please read your warranty if you haven't. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/terms.php

You're absolutely right Mark. It slipped my mind with all of the other things going on right now, and I take full responsibility for my (lack of) action regarding the warranty. Nothing I can do about it now expect hope that it works!

[performance]

Your warranty will be in force, but the shipping will be on your dime, especially if it is over 30 days.

[greygizmo]

Visibility can be blocked by the larger diameter gas lens...
But the glaringly obvious issue that I see here is the fact you have ignored the warranty! You should have tested your unit as soon as you received it. IF there are any shipping issues/damage, it will likely be up to you. You are supposed to test and FULLY inspect the unit promplty after receiving it. The reason I bring this up is this also affects our ability to determine what happened to the unit, and will send you past the 30 day warranty period. Please read your warranty if you haven't. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/terms.php

I did read the warranty, which states Everlast will cover shipping up to 30 days after purchase. My unit was out of coverage by the time it was delivered, which was about 7 weeks after purchase.

So unless I'm misinterpreting the legalese, I don't have much incentive to test the unit before I'm really ready to use it.


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[performance]

Well, the incentive is IF you have a problem and you ARE ready to use it, you will not be able to and will be further delayed until it is repaired. In cases where a preorder is made and shipping is delayed, it is counted from the time of shipping. Normally shipping and day of sale are the same.

[jakeru]

Yes - there are downsides to a gas lens:
http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...7233#post37233

[zoama]

Yes - there are downsides to a gas lens:
http://www.everlastgenerators.com/fo...7233#post37233

At $1.79 I wouldn't worry about it. http://www.weldingcity.com/tig-consu...llet-body.html

[sw2x]

I've been using the cheap gas lenses like what's available from welding city for about a yr now (off and on). I don't think I've ever used a standard collet to tig at all. But just today I got in my new CK130Flex and a Gas saver kit with the pyrex cup. I've fallen in love with these pyrex cups.. I CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PUDDLE! I've only layed one bead tonight after installing it, on some scrap aluminum, but I think it's the most consistent welding I've ever done. Seeing the puddle cool and the keyhole open up is key to knowing when to dip the rod again, with the clear cup I can see everything. I also noticed that the flow of argon is alot smoother through the gas saver kit than the standard gas lenses... Does everyone else with the pyrex gas saver kits notice the same thing over a standard gas lense?

[redbeard]

do you read the flowmeter from Everlast at the top, middle or bottom of the ball?

Been wondering that myself. I've just been going with the middle, figuring that would equalize any error from an incorrect guess.

[zoama]

Been wondering that myself. I've just been going with the middle, figuring that would equalize any error from an incorrect guess.

I use the least amount that gets me a clean weld in testing, so wherever I read it from first is where I read it every time after, but I think I read it in the middle as well... hadn't thought about it until now.

[Tanh]

I've been using the cheap gas lenses like what's available from welding city for about a yr now (off and on). I don't think I've ever used a standard collet to tig at all. But just today I got in my new CK130Flex and a Gas saver kit with the pyrex cup. I've fallen in love with these pyrex cups.. I CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PUDDLE! I've only layed one bead tonight after installing it, on some scrap aluminum, but I think it's the most consistent welding I've ever done. Seeing the puddle cool and the keyhole open up is key to knowing when to dip the rod again, with the clear cup I can see everything. I also noticed that the flow of argon is alot smoother through the gas saver kit than the standard gas lenses... Does everyone else with the pyrex gas saver kits notice the same thing over a standard gas lense?

That comment made the descision for me. I was wondering what torch accessories to buy and it was a tossup between the gas lens and gas saver w/ pyrex cup. I always liked the idea of seeing the weld and have the benefit of gas economy. Some people have had opinions that the gas saver isn't worth it but I really like the idea. Guess if you just have to have it then the descision was made before you even thought about it.

Where did you get the gas saver and how much, if you don't mind me asking?

[greygizmo]

Same here. I ended up ordering the standard-sized gas saver kit from arc-zone.com yesterday. It was $125 for a set with alumina and Pyrex nozzles in all the standard sizes. It comes with electrodes of different sizes as well.

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[willida]

Zank, would be nice if my welds looked like yours!!!

[everlastsupport]

Same here. I ended up ordering the standard-sized gas saver kit from arc-zone.com yesterday. It was $125 for a set with alumina and Pyrex nozzles in all the standard sizes. It comes with electrodes of different sizes as well.

What electrodes are they shipping? Do not use the green tips (pure tungsten). Upload a picture when you get them. What torch was it for?

[sw2x]

I bought my gas saver kit from weldfabulous.com

CKCK130V FX CK130 Flex with valve torch $51.67
CKD2GS116-P CK Gas Saver kit for 1/16 with Pyrex cup $21.97
CKTAS332GS CK Tungsten Adapter w/screens for 3/32" $3.32
CKTAS418GS CK Tungsten Adapter w/screens for 1/8" $3.32
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Subtotal $80.28
Shipping $9.20
Total $89.48

Torch did not include the hoses or the handle. Just the torch head itself

[zank]

Zank, would be nice if my welds looked like yours!!!

Thanks. Practice, practice, practice.

[Tanh]

I bought my gas saver kit from weldfabulous.com

CKCK130V FX CK130 Flex with valve torch $51.67
CKD2GS116-P CK Gas Saver kit for 1/16 with Pyrex cup $21.97
CKTAS332GS CK Tungsten Adapter w/screens for 3/32" $3.32
CKTAS418GS CK Tungsten Adapter w/screens for 1/8" $3.32
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Subtotal $80.28
Shipping $9.20
Total $89.48

Torch did not include the hoses or the handle. Just the torch head itself

Looks like they changed their pricing for the gas saver kit. I can only find it for 25 and change now. If that's the price then that's what it is. Thanks for the details. I might try to find something closer to save on international shipping, if possible.