Are the new 2013 models out yet?

[MuttonHawg]

For what ever it might be worth my opinion and actually that of the person who does all the mig unit testing at the factory,the best mig function model to date is the synergic MTS models in the 200 and 250 amp.
I have to agree with this evaluation as I was testing the units the other week and this is what brought up the question and the reason I asked.
Mind you it is a close call between these and the 205 ( I have the most time on the I-Mig 205 so it is the easiest for me to relate to )
The new model digitals may very well be as good or better but at this point until you start actually evaluating them there is little you can say to the quality of weld they will put out.Cheers

Interesting. I was researching the IMig models a bit, but this comment about the got me looking at the MTS models, which has me a bit confused.

• The Everlast site shows the MTS200 and MTS250S, but the photo on the main 1-phase MTS page shows an MTS200S
• The Everlast eBay store has the MTS200S and MTS160 listed
• Amazon has the MTS160, MTS200S, but the new 2013 MTS250S
• There is a link to a manual on the Everlast site (from Dec 2012) for the MTS200/200S/250S, but the manual itself only seems to explain the MTS200 and MTS250S (though the cover page makes mention of the MTS160). There is also a link (from July 2011) to a manual for the MTS160/200S
• I've seen videos (links were posted in another thread) reviewing a MTS210, which I can't find on sale anywhere.

I'm assuming the 'S' suffix refers to synergic, and therefore I had assumed that the MTS200S is an update to the MTS200. But the manual for the MTS200 is newer than the MTS200S manual, which tells me the opposite. And the availability of the MTS200S on eBay and Amazon, but not on the Everlast site, confuses me.

The MTS200S doesn't seem to have a setting for a spool gun, while the MTS200 does. The MTS200S also does not seem to have settings for up/down slope, pre/post flow, or foot pedal as the MTS200 does. MTS200 and MTS250S appear to have the ability to save settings in memory.

So I'm just trying to figure out what is what. Not that a machine with a one year older or newer design is a big deal, I'm just trying to understand the selection. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Titan winch]

Here is the face and look of the MTS 200S model. As you can see it is full synergic spool gun capable.
Cheers
P.S I think it may even be on sale on some of our local forums we sponsor .

[MuttonHawg]

Nice! So if I order from Amazon or the Everlast eBay store, is this what I would get? Because this isn't what the photos show at this time, and the MTS200S is not even listed on Everlast's own site.

When you say "some of our local forums we sponsor", whom do you mean?

I'm hoping to put together the scratch to purchase a MIG machine in the next few months, and I think my primary candidates are now the IMig 205/205P and the MTS200S - each of which has their own little 'extra' features. And who knows - by the time I'm ready to make my purchase, maybe the new digital MIG will be available to consider as well. Thanks!