Share
Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: New issue with high amp arc starts on 160STH

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Whine Country, California
    Posts
    442

    Default New issue with high amp arc starts on 160STH

    So I just went out and continued welding the corners on my 20 ga. sheet metal doors, and after a few short welds, I noticed I no longer had the ability to start a low amp arc. When I hit the pedal lightly, the arc is either "on" or "off" (like a light switch) and even the slightest release of the pedal will cause the arc to go out abruptly. Also, the second I light up with the pedal, my nice needle point tungsten gets a blunt point, but does NOT turn charcoal color or become contaminated.

    I'm running 7 LPM (or whatever the unit of measure is on the Everlast flow meter) currently, 3/32" thoriated tungsten, number 6 cup, and the ground clamp is directly attached to the base metal. If I stab the pedal and put the torch to my ear, it blows a steady stream of shielding gas at me. I just checked the basics (my connections all seem tight and the torch parts are snug).


    Pics are attached of previous (controllable) welds.
    The first pic is my typical slightly hot weld using .035" MIG wire as filler, and the second pic is a slightly cold (not to mention, rough) weld from using the bigger 1/16" carbon steel filler rod. Obviously I was able to at least control the puddle and width of the bead on each of those passes (even if they aren't very pretty).

    The last pic shows the result of me using the lay wire technique with 1/16" filler and jamming rod in frantically while trying to fill a large keyhole (no control at all during the entire weld). I never had to do that on the previous welds. If I had to guess, I'd say the lowest starting amps are around 30 or 40 amps. I should have looked at the digital display to see what the actual start amps are but it didn't cross my mind until just now (it's really a moot point anyways). The machine was working flawlessly before I ran the last few beads.

    Any ideas or suggestions? All 3 pics were welded today (just FYI). I would have called Everlast support, but it's after 6:00. Thanks for the help.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1045.jpg 
Views:	276 
Size:	136.7 KB 
ID:	9286   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1042.jpg 
Views:	270 
Size:	138.8 KB 
ID:	9287   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_1057.jpg 
Views:	271 
Size:	140.8 KB 
ID:	9288  
    Andy
    New Everlast PowerTig 250EX that is begging for me to come up with a few welding projects so it can stretch it's legs. Did someone say aluminum???

    MISC. TOOLS:
    Atlas 618 lathe
    Milwaukee Porta Band with custom made stand
    Dewalt 4-1/2" angle grinder
    Dewalt 14" chop saw

    Strong Hand Nomad portable table
    Juki sewing machine I've had for years (yes I know sewing is for girls)

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Whine Country, California
    Posts
    442

    Default

    I just checked resistance between the pins on the pedal, and between pin numbers 1 and 2 I get an "OL" reading on my meter when the pedal is resting, and between .3 and .4 ohms resistance when depressed. I found a label on the pedal that says FT-22k-CL (for what it's worth).
    Andy
    New Everlast PowerTig 250EX that is begging for me to come up with a few welding projects so it can stretch it's legs. Did someone say aluminum???

    MISC. TOOLS:
    Atlas 618 lathe
    Milwaukee Porta Band with custom made stand
    Dewalt 4-1/2" angle grinder
    Dewalt 14" chop saw

    Strong Hand Nomad portable table
    Juki sewing machine I've had for years (yes I know sewing is for girls)

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Disneyland
    Posts
    2,662

    Default

    I would open up your pedal and have a look at the mechanical portion. What you describe could be that the belt has slipped on the pot, so you have the switch part but not the current control. A few people have pedal issues and if you search the forum you can find a few different ways of improving the belt system. Usually you just need to adjust things a little better and all the parts are still good. I'm not sure if it's poor QC on the pedal, poor design, things coming loose in shipping, or a combination of all of them. It's probably an easy fix. You can check resistance between pins 3, 4, and 5 for the pot.
    Last edited by Rambozo; 01-29-2013 at 03:44 AM.
    Long arc, short arc, heliarc and in-the-dark!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Whine Country, California
    Posts
    442

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    I would open up your pedal and have a look at the mechanical portion. What you describe could be that the belt has slipped on the pot, so you have the switch part but not the current control. A few people have pedal issues and if you search the forum you can find a few different ways of improving the belt system. Usually you just need to adjust things a little better and all the parts are still good. I'm not sure if it's poor QC on the pedal, poor design, things coming loose in shipping, or a combination of all of them. It's probably an easy fix. You can check resistance between pins 3, 4, and 5 for the pot.
    Cool, that sounds reasonable enough. I'll check it out in the morning.
    Andy
    New Everlast PowerTig 250EX that is begging for me to come up with a few welding projects so it can stretch it's legs. Did someone say aluminum???

    MISC. TOOLS:
    Atlas 618 lathe
    Milwaukee Porta Band with custom made stand
    Dewalt 4-1/2" angle grinder
    Dewalt 14" chop saw

    Strong Hand Nomad portable table
    Juki sewing machine I've had for years (yes I know sewing is for girls)

Similar Threads

  1. Struggling with low current starts on 255EXT 2015
    By windscreen in forum TIG Welding (GTAW/GTAW-P)
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 08-12-2015, 05:06 AM
  2. Hate it when I get a call that starts out...
    By millerized in forum Other Custom Fabrications
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-04-2015, 10:28 PM
  3. HF starts quit working - PowerTIG 200DX
    By Timebandit in forum TIG Welding (GTAW/GTAW-P)
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-04-2014, 03:04 PM
  4. Where can I buy a 7 pin connector for my PA 160STH?
    By jchaverri in forum TIG Welding (GTAW/GTAW-P)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-14-2014, 02:09 AM
  5. Arc Starts
    By ArcRay in forum Multi-Process Units (TIG,Stick,Plasma/MIG,TIG,Stick Combo units)
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-16-2013, 05:54 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •