everlast vs Longevity ?

[travis]

is everlast and Longevity welders related ? same company i was just on that site looks like this site if related whats the differance in them ?

[performance]

No, but they have been known copy product lines and literature from other companies that enjoy success with a product, not just us. There is a family by marriage connection, but that is it. Not best of friends for sure.

[travis]

products dont look as nice and are more costly from what i seen

[Kempy]

When I was looking for a Invert type TigWeld 250 AC/DC I saw the Longevity and phoned them asking question but they could not give me a stright answer to my questions and the Rated Duty Cycle was only 35% at full power???. Talked to Everlast and got a stright answers about the product and the Rated Duty Cycle is 60% at full power, they are also using Siemens Power Modules I like. So now I am waiting for my Everlast 250EX 2013 should be in Canada middle this month around Feb.14 or so.

is everlast and Longevity welders related ? same company i was just on that site looks like this site if related whats the differance in them ?

[geezer]

When I was looking for a Invert type TigWeld 250 AC/DC I saw the Longevity and phoned them asking question but they could not give me a stright answer to my questions and the Rated Duty Cycle was only 35% at full power???. Talked to Everlast and got a stright answers about the product and the Rated Duty Cycle is 60% at full power, they are also using Siemens Power Modules I like. So now I am waiting for my Everlast 250EX 2013 should be in Canada middle this month around Feb.14 or so.

On order for the Spring of 2013 Everlast Canada
PowerTig 250EX, Power I-MIG 205 w/spoolgun,PowerCool W300

You have bought wisely,,,you will not be dissapointed..I have that stuff my self,,,no regrets..

[youngnstudly]

No, but they have been known copy product lines and literature from other companies that enjoy success with a product, not just us. There is a family by marriage connection, but that is it. Not best of friends for sure.

It's funny you mention that since I've heard (numerous times now) that Everlast and Longevity are the same manufacture, but "brother/sister" companies! When I hear the rumors, I always ask "So which company is the brother, and which is the sister?"(LOL).

I did a little research on Longevity when I was first looking at TIG welders a year ago, and I only found a few happy customer reviews upon searching, but a whole lot of unhappy reviews! To be fair, if you go on the welding forums where Lincoln and Miller are the majority, there's a lot of trash talk about ALL Chinese welders!

[ShaneJackson]

I did the same when I was first looking at welders. I talked to Longevity and they had problems answering some specifics as well. Also their prices are higher and contacting them was harder.... I too seen some bad reviews on them.

I cant speak as to their quality as I chose Everlast. I can say I LOVE my Everlast products. Very happy with them.

[youngnstudly]

I have to say that I'm as happy with my Everlast as I would be with a baseline (no frills) Miller or Lincoln TIG. The really expensive Miller and Lincoln's have great features, but for the cost I could pay a professional to come out and BUILD the things I want, while I sat on my butt and watched! Then my (imaginary) friends would think I was a REAL welder!

[SeanMurphy265]

I've noticed that over the last year Longevity appears to have changed factories. They came out with new machines that look identical to Eastwood's machines. I saw the video with a new mig welder that looks identical to the old Harbor Freight 90 amp flux core welder. They currently have 5 200amp tig welders on their website. Why would you want to sell 5 machines in the same amp range?

[MuttonHawg]

I also noticed the similarity in appearance between some Longevity products and some Everlast products, but I chalked it up to either A) same factory, same parts in different combinations, B) common suppliers for the cases so they LOOK the same but the innards are different, or C) reverse engineering and/or intellectual property theft. Based on the little discussion I have followed on the topic, it sounds like it's some combination of (B) and (C).

Like others, I read lots of pretty good reviews and opinions of Everlast products, and since they're a bit less expensive (and I like green), I went that route. So in reality, it doesn't matter to me all that much what Longevity does, because I'm happy with my Everlast and will likely continue to purchase/support that company's products.

Then my (imaginary) friends would think I was a REAL welder!

Some of my best friends are imaginary, and they believe whatever I tell them

[performance]

I'd be willing to make a small bet that out of those 5 units, only one or two are actually available. But do anything to give yourself a larger web footprint I guess... If you can get the others...I'd imagine they are returns, or something similar that are tidied up and sold... As a comparison, We've stayed with the same basic welder factory since we started with them testing the last half of 2008...working on the product, improving and moving forward. Though we have added additional factories that manufacture some other products for us, the heart of our product line has not changed. An astute researcher can trace our "competitors" claims of having a new product "line" (aka factory) about every year or two since 2008.

[Tanh]

It's interesting to see that a lot of people are not just impulse buyers and actually phone up companies to do research. I'm much the same way and it was a call to Jean that confirmed my descision.

I needed something cost affective and can live without the frills. When a discussion came up on Weldingtipsandtricks.com about chinese welders, the everlast brand was mentioned favourably by some. This got me thinking about all the welders that aren't red, yellow or blue. A little stint on ebay, madeinChina, and the such gave me the impression that if you're paying this much money for something, you'd better have some kind of service, in case something goes wrong. The likelyhood something going wrong seems to be the norm according to some welding forum topics on off brand welders. That's why I started lurking here to see what others are saying and what the company was like.

What shocked me was that it felt like a mom and pop type of business. That's a good thing! The communication flowed and the brand developed a face. It wasn't just a green emblem, Everlast was Jean, Duncan, Mark, Mike and everbody else on here. It laid to rest my fears about buying this brand. Such that if something did break, I'd have people who are willing and ready to help get it resolved. That's important to me. More so than buying a Longevity or knockoff at Princessauto and remaining in the dark about welding and the machine in general. I passed on longevity way before all others cus it didn't offer the value that others did, including the support.

To anybody that's reading this and on the fence like I was, go for it. You won't regret your descision.

[performance]

I've noticed that over the last year Longevity appears to have changed factories. They came out with new machines that look identical to Eastwood's machines. I saw the video with a new mig welder that looks identical to the old Harbor Freight 90 amp flux core welder. They currently have 5 200amp tig welders on their website. Why would you want to sell 5 machines in the same amp range?

The Eastwood units are Mosfet, which really isn't discussed very well. Longevity has not either from what I see. Not that these are bad units, but overall lifespan may not be up to par. Talking with Eastwood during the Sema show, they revealed they don't have any long term plans to service these units. They said they don't repair them or have facilities to do it, as they just throw them away if there's a problem. What's a customer to do after the warranty period??

[youngnstudly]

I just looked at the Eastwood products catalog and their TIG welders seem to be very inexpensive (cost wise). I guess now we know WHY they are so inexpensive! I have to say that I never even considered an Eastwood TIG when I was deciding on the welder I wanted to purchase. I wasn't happy with past purchases through them (for starters). Plus the Everlast warranty beat out everyone else, so I was sold on that alone (well, that AND the praise for Everlast found on this forum).

[DaveO]

But do anything to give yourself a larger web footprint I guess...

They've taken to posting "come to our website" ads on Craigs List here in the DC area. I guess you can post on CL across the country and across the world if you've got enough time in the day.

[MuttonHawg]

They've taken to posting "come to our website" ads on Craigs List here in the DC area. I guess you can post on CL across the country and across the world if you've got enough time in the day.

Hmmm ... interesting. I can see why a company would do that, though - drive lots of traffic for relatively little investment. They could probably pepper pretty much the entire country with those sorts of ads and it would only take a few hours of work. Tactics like that don't really scream "professional" to me, but if they're just looking for views, that'd get it done.

[SeanMurphy265]

Hmmm ... interesting. I can see why a company would do that, though - drive lots of traffic for relatively little investment. They could probably pepper pretty much the entire country with those sorts of ads and it would only take a few hours of work. Tactics like that don't really scream "professional" to me, but if they're just looking for views, that'd get it done.

There is a CNC Plasma table company that places adds on Craigslist as well.

[xalky]

I've ordered a 250ex which, with any luck, i should be recieving by the end of this week or beginning of next week.

I had a Longevity 256PI multipurpose machine, which for the most part , i was happy with, except the HF plasma start was not conducive to CNC plasma controls. Live and learn.

I would have kept it but I sold it because i needed the money to buy a Hypertherm plasma cutter at the time. I did do some AC tig welding with it, and though I'm no tig expert I managed to weld some 3/8" aluminum with it. When I get my 250ex, the first thing i might do is weld some 3/8" aluminum just to have something to compare.

BTW: The buyer of the Longevity was Thom over at CandCNC because he wanted the noisiest (HF EMI) plasma cutter he could find to bullet proof his cnc systems. He said it was noisier than anything he's ever fired up including some of the old ESAB HF plasma cutters. His exact words were "It's a good thing that i wasn't wearing a pacemaker when i fired it up". I think he gave up on trying to get his cnc controls to work with it...LOL I fried 2 computers and a few cnc controllers trying to get that thing to work... a costly lesson indeed.

[sticks]

It was an even split for me on which brand for my plasma cutter, I was leaning towards Longevity, as I was going to pick up their 200A MIG/Stick welder also, but 2 unanswered emails, and 2 phone calls to the sales department not returned settled that issue for me.

The plasma came in a bit higher than I wanted to spend for something that is going to be toted around in my service truck, but I needed to make sure the tool fit my needs.

[Mr120]

They started selling a tig welder more than a year after Eastwood started selling it and called it "their" new model. Now they're selling a low cost mig welder that Harbor Freight carried? Sounds to me that they pick up either surplus products or products no one else wants to carry and claim that "their" product department designed them. I'm not bashing just saying what it looks like.

It's OK to import stuff but it just doesn't seem right for them to then turn around and appear to deceive their customers by saying it's "their factory" and that they designed the stuff.

It's pretty clear to me that Everlast works closely with their factory. It's also clear to me that Everlast isn't a clearance center for surplus products. Given the amount of product Everlast sells, I'm pretty sure that Everlast will be around for quite a while to provide service and advice when I need it.