Powermaster 226 has HF but will not arc

[singlesupra]

I was welding last night(aluminum) and stopped to reposition my work(thin work with little amps). Went to start back welding and only has HF start. I even tried striking the arc directly to the ground glamp but no luck. Tried a diff foot pedal and the factory hand trigger setup. Few notes, reads around -032 amps and the display will not change no matter what knob I turn. When I try to strike the arc it basicly flashes to 000 on the display.
This couldnt have happened at a worst time, have a customer flying in this saturday and I have just a little welding left to finish for him
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Any ideas?? Anyone at everlast feel free to call me at 434-470-2700 if needed or you have some ideas please

[performance]

Won't work with the torch switch? Does same thing? Can you scratch start it?

[singlesupra]

Won't work with the torch switch? Does same thing? Can you scratch start it?

No. Same thing with the torch. And will not scratch start either. All I can get is the HF

[performance]

Sounds terminal. Have you tried the other processes? Anything? Only other thing to do is remove the cover and see if there is anything obvious that is loose, or broken. If nothing, call tech support at ext 207.

[singlesupra]

Sounds terminal. Have you tried the other processes? Anything? Only other thing to do is remove the cover and see if there is anything obvious that is loose, or broken. If nothing, call tech support at ext 207.

Ill try stick tonight(TIG is the ONLY function I have used on this machine). If same thing I will look for obvious after removing the cover. if I dont see anything obvious, and I send it in its still under warranty(by just a hair LOL)how does the warranty work? What all does it cover? Any chance I can just upgrade while you have the unit?

[singlesupra]

Ill try stick tonight(TIG is the ONLY function I have used on this machine). If same thing I will look for obvious after removing the cover. if I dont see anything obvious, and I send it in its still under warranty(by just a hair LOL)how does the warranty work? What all does it cover? Any chance I can just upgrade while you have the unit?

Any info on how the warranty works?

[singlesupra]

Well Damn...pulled the cover didn't see anything obvious other than a slight loose connection and out cover back on. Pushed it into place and put cover back on. Started welding correctly right after. Just tonight I have the same issue again... can I still use the same return number? My warranty runs our in a few days and wish now i had just sent it back vs takin the cover off. Hope likening to u guys to take the cover off myself didn't screw me outa warranty work

Let me know if I can use the same return number please

[singlesupra]

Well Damn...pulled the cover didn't see anything obvious other than a slight loose connection and out cover back on. Pushed it into place and put cover back on. Started welding correctly right after. Just tonight I have the same issue again... can I still use the same return number? My warranty runs our in a few days and wish now i had just sent it back vs takin the cover off. Hope likening to u guys to take the cover off myself didn't screw me outa warranty work

Let me know if I can use the same return number please

ttt?? anyone?? I hate to have to pay for the warranty thats out a day or two. Please let me know

[Rambozo]

ttt?? anyone?? I hate to have to pay for the warranty thats out a day or two. Please let me know

Your best bet is to call support to verify that you can use the same RMA#.

[performance]

You can use it, just send it in. But before you send it in make sure it isn't in lift arc or the the main wire running to the HF board hasn't pulled loose.

[singlesupra]

You can use it, just send it in. But before you send it in make sure it isn't in lift arc or the the main wire running to the HF board hasn't pulled loose.

I pulled the cover again last night, which is the HF board exactly? And thanks for being so easy to work with, its why I have sent many many people you guys way over the years

[singlesupra]

At this point I don't see anything obvious and am going to just send it back in. I don't want the warranty to be months out before they get it back.
thanks for the replys and ill update what the issue was(if they tell me)

[singlesupra]

FIgured Id update this. After using the everlast Id guess 20 times over the course of the years and all the issues I had, I sold it on craigslist for around $50 bucks. When I first purchased it, for about 3 months it was a royal pain to weld with so I had to buy a upgraded pedal. Used it as I said a few more times and had this issue. Sold it in 2013, got a lincoln 175 square wave used for cheaper than this new one cost me and it hasnt skipped a beat. I have used it weekly, sometimes daily for weeks at a time without so much as a hickup.
What I learned.... These are throw away welders. You are much better off purhcasing a good used welder vs one of these. I love a deal as much as anyone and sure when it welds, it welds great but they just are not made to last. Its like purchasing anything else, you get what you pay for. Id say maybe buy one if you only use it once in a while but thats what I did and it still didnt last.
No hard feelings on my end, and hope none on everlast end with my review. I tried to cheap out and in the end after buying this and my lincoln, I could have purchased a higher amp real welder. Hope most dont have the luck I had with it. Toys have there time and place but NOT in my shop, I have to have reliabilty

[performance]

That is a welder that has been out of production for about 7 years now. Welders aren't even close to being the same or built the same. They are made to last. There are a lot of terrible reviews of the Lincoln SW 175 and issues they had with the board. More than one person was told basically, that the 175's were throw away because of the cost of the boards and the problems. Everyone is going to have a different opinion and experience...but I am not sure what was wrong with your Everlast. You still did not say and over 3 years later, you post this up. I hate you had that experience. But it is a fairly isolated opinion. All of these IGBT models are still being supported and are fixable. Units still carry a 5 year warranty. If they were not good, we could not extend a 5 year warranty on them. As far as resale, you probably hurt yourself. I've seen Everlast stuff go for almost retail on craigslist and ebay. I've seen a few go for more than what the customer paid us for it.

[singlesupra]

I wont argue about the lincoln 175, Ill just say this is the first Ive heard anyone consider it a throw away. Look, if I touched a nerve, sorry it wasnt my intention. I basicly got about 3 hours worth of welding out of mine due to issues at first, then the pedal and then the last HF start issue. I couldnt give you a final resolution as to what was wrong since I knew I was about to ramp up my fabrication and needed something that worked every day. I purchased the used lincoln 175 and about 6 months ago purchased another. The lincoln 175 actually has one of the best names and reputations out there and most only complaint is the 175 amps.
As for getting less than it was worth, not sure of your area but chinese welders here dont sell well and they definately dont sell well when they are a 40#, dead in the water paper weight.

As I said earlier my purpose for updating this thread was to give everyone my final thoughts on the welder. Im sure someone out there has had back luck with a lincoln 175 and Id welcome there review also. I did read about a potential board issue but it seems those are fixed for about $175 so I dont know who would throw away a $2000 welder for such a cheap fix but thats on them, not me. You can only cut prices on things so much until they become cheap, and thats exactly how everlast can sell these things this "cheap". I say cheap on initial purchase but the first time it fails to operate it costs you much more as well as having to buy a welder that will work daily. Sure these things have there time and place, but a shop like mine that cant take the weeks it takes to send away and get back it has no place.

So again, goodluck to all who purchase

[zoama]

chinese welders here dont sell well

So again, goodluck to all who purchase

I hope you realize that your 175 is not made in the USA.

[singlesupra]

I dont care if its made on pluto, as soon as you open the everlast box and feel the components its apparent its a cheaply made product. Debate that all you like but when you are constantly having to say "check the cog for slippage" on a new part or "check this and that" its an inferior product

[performance]

You said you only used it for 3 hours before you had issues and then you indicated you gave up after that. Previously you said you had only used it about 20 times. Really doesn't sound right to me, as in there is something not adding up.
As far as passing that unit on, the 175 has been problematic, and numerous changes have been made. I have LIncoln stuff too. One control board on a well sold Ranger 8, which are designed to last for years was out of production, only 8 years after it was made. It was problematic and they had made new ones, but the old ones weren't the same or interchangeable. They said it would take 6-8 weeks to get a new one produced and they'd have to schedule a production run to do it after I ordered it...and it was going to be over 400.0 for a simple control board without much on it. I had to have it repaired at a third party facility and it still cost nearly 200.00 for it. Think again. Lincoln is selling stuff made in China now, that is assembled in Mexico, and they are having all sorts of issues with their stuff...stuff we've never even had an issue with on our products. And people are steamed...as they were out of replacement units and parts for several months. I am you will pass the 175 on, and am sure your children will enjoy you passing on an outdated and orphaned boat anchor to them.

[singlesupra]

You said you only used it for 3 hours before you had issues and then you indicated you gave up after that. Previously you said you had only used it about 20 times. Really doesn't sound right to me, as in there is something not adding up.
As far as passing that unit on, the 175 has been problematic, and numerous changes have been made. I have LIncoln stuff too. One control board on a well sold Ranger 8, which are designed to last for years was out of production, only 8 years after it was made. It was problematic and they had made new ones, but the old ones weren't the same or interchangeable. They said it would take 6-8 weeks to get a new one produced and they'd have to schedule a production run to do it after I ordered it...and it was going to be over 400.0 for a simple control board without much on it. I had to have it repaired at a third party facility and it still cost nearly 200.00 for it. Think again. Lincoln is selling stuff made in China now, that is assembled in Mexico, and they are having all sorts of issues with their stuff...stuff we've never even had an issue with on our products. And people are steamed...as they were out of replacement units and parts for several months. I am you will pass the 175 on, and am sure your children will enjoy you passing on an outdated and orphaned boat anchor to them.

Not quite sure where you are getting your information, Ive clearly said time and time and time again I bought the damn thing, it came half ### working. After weeks/months of dealing with the "check this, check that" of everlast support it was determined the pedal was the root cause of most of the issues. Fast forward 2 years or so, after using it for maybe 20 times, the unit would not do anything other than the HF arc. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. But then again, after doing a quick search it seems many many many others have had the same issue. Need links?
Dont try to twist my words, you are already coming across as an ### already and Im sure once this thread is searched more and more people see how arrogant you have been you will lose even more customers. So again, good luck with the company. This will be my last response to you. If people find there way to this thread and think you have handled yourself professionally and want to purchase the throw away welders, it doesnt effect me either way. If they see what they already knew and it costs you sales, thats fine with me also.
Now, if you have anything else to say to me feel free to PM me and we can meet for a beer, I travel quite a lot and have no issue finishing this face to face. I am honestly shocked you have the time to respond with as many products you have that have issues. Just click the back button and scroll down the forum for proof.

And btw, my boat anchor still outwelded the everlast in every metal I ever used it on. I had several career welders who tried using the everlast with about as good of luck as I had with it. Oh, but I forgot, that was a ragged unit that wasnt in production long. In a couple years, the ones you are rebadging now(or painting green, however you want to spell it) will be blamed on something else as well.

To anyone else who happens to google search there way here, dont take my word for it. Google long and hard, find reviews after a few years. Sure, SOME of the everlast come out of the box working but thats not a real review.

[performance]

I wont argue about the lincoln 175, Ill just say this is the first Ive heard anyone consider it a throw away. Look, if I touched a nerve, sorry it wasnt my intention. I basicly got about 3 hours worth of welding out of mine due to issues at first, then the pedal and then the last HF start issue. I couldnt give you a final resolution as to what was wrong since I knew I was about to ramp up my fabrication and needed something that worked every day. I purchased the used lincoln 175 and about 6 months ago purchased another. The lincoln 175 actually has one of the best names and reputations out there and most only complaint is the 175 amps.
As for getting less than it was worth, not sure of your area but chinese welders here dont sell well and they definately dont sell well when they are a 40#, dead in the water paper weight.

As I said earlier my purpose for updating this thread was to give everyone my final thoughts on the welder. Im sure someone out there has had back luck with a lincoln 175 and Id welcome there review also. I did read about a potential board issue but it seems those are fixed for about $175 so I dont know who would throw away a $2000 welder for such a cheap fix but thats on them, not me. You can only cut prices on things so much until they become cheap, and thats exactly how everlast can sell these things this "cheap". I say cheap on initial purchase but the first time it fails to operate it costs you much more as well as having to buy a welder that will work daily. Sure these things have there time and place, but a shop like mine that cant take the weeks it takes to send away and get back it has no place.

So again, goodluck to all who purchase

Well here you go: https://www.google.com/search?q=squa...utf-8&oe=utf-8
No, no nerve touched here. But don't expect a pass when you've made some inaccurate statements.
But seriously, let's be honest, YOU threw it away. They aren't throw away welders! The older Everlast welders are repairable and fixable, much more so than other machines in it's class in general. The boards are repairable as well. You are making a statement that is easily something that can be seen through. We use NAME brand components and the part numbers are usually right on the welder. We offer upgrades to the existing pedals and have for some time, with SSC controls. We also have improved our pedals and haven't had that pedal in seveal years, but most if they had an issue were fixable, and there were threads here on how to do so.

Also you are making a statement about an early unit that is no longer made. But we still fix them if they tear up. We have updated the foot pedal issue. You are making a current and dismissive assessment of the product line based on an Old, early design, and one that we are still supporting and repairing. You had an issue early on, but didn't really make the effort to resolve it. You dumped the unit and then bought something that isn't even in the same class and capability of the machine. You compare apples to oranges. But hey, who'd throw away a 1300 dollar welder over such a cheap and easy fix? Right? Boards for that machine are cheaper than what you quoted on yours...

But thanks for an opinion and closure on this thread 3 years after you started it. I just wish it had been more about your experience with the machine and less about a summation of the current Everlast product line (and really the line since 2010) as a whole.