Now I am just trying to decide between the flex loc 130 or 150 and in 12.5 feet or 25 feet. I think 25 might be a bit much but then again I can leave some hanging on the welder. I just don't really see needing anything over 12 feet because I can wheel the welder anywhere in my shop . I always find with any type of welder it always seems to be the ground lead that is to short. Most of the time the gun will reach but the ground comes up short. Something small I will put in my vise and I always had to pull my old welder closer to get the ground connected and then loop the mig gun because it was to long.