Dumb Newbie, or Dead 210 EXT?

[RichardH]

Hi, all.

Well, I spent the weekdays getting prepped with scrap metal, gas, consumables, etc., and left the best 'till last... wiring the plug and powering up my new unit. Sadly, no joy.

I get a light in the rear power switch, but no fan action or front panel lights. Maybe I'm overlooking something, like a second switch?

Is there a user-servicable fuse / breaker inside, or is it time to contact tech support?

[zoama]

Post a pic of how you wired the plug (inside the plug pic).
Did you check the voltage at your outlet ?

[RichardH]

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yup, the outlet's good; it's been feeding my compressor for years. I've verified power's good into the unit, so it's looking like an RMA...

[Rambozo]

I put it in the wrong thread, so I will repost here. The color code on the power cord is a bit unconventional since this can be wired for single or 3 phase. I noticed the manual also doesn't have the nice diagram for the plug that you will find in the 250EX manual. Be sure you are not using the red wire for single phase operation.

[RichardH]

The color code on the power cord is a bit unconventional since this can be wired for single or 3 phase. I noticed the manual also doesn't have the nice diagram for the plug that you will find in the 250EX manual. Be sure you are not using the red wire for single phase operation.

Thanks! This unit is single-phase only, so you can't wire it wrong unless the green wire isn't ground. But for everyone's peace of mind, here's a photo:

G=green
X=black
Y=white
Plug is an L6-30P (240v 30A, locking)

[Rambozo]

Nevermind. I'm out of date again.

[zoama]

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yup, the outlet's good; it's been feeding my compressor for years. I've verified power's good into the unit, so it's looking like an RMA...

The first step is to call tech support monday morning. He'll walk you through troubleshooting. If that doesn't get it working he'll issue the RMA.

[RichardH]

The first step is to call tech support monday morning. He'll walk you through troubleshooting. If that doesn't get it working he'll issue the RMA.

Cool, thanks. I was hoping I missed something obvious, but it doesn't seem like it. Will-do.

Cheers,
Richard

[Kempy]

Thanks! This unit is single-phase only, so you can't wire it wrong unless the green wire isn't ground. But for everyone's peace of mind, here's a photo:

G=green
X=black
Y=white
Plug is an L6-30P (240v 30A, locking)

I use the same plugs and receptacle did you check the voltage.

[RichardH]

I use the same plugs and receptacle did you check the voltage.

Yeah, voltages verified at the circuit board, actually. 244V pole to pole, 122V pole to ground.

Unless, of course, opening the unit is a warranty violation, in which case I did no such thing.

[everlastsupport]

Yeah, voltages verified at the circuit board, actually. 244V pole to pole, 122V pole to ground.

Unless, of course, opening the unit is a warranty violation, in which case I did no such thing.

I use that plug as well on the 210 and lower amp units and you are right. Can't wire it wrong easily. Call Ray Monday and help. He might have you pull the case as the fans runs right off the line. Then you can make sure you see 120 to ground on each leg across the actual switch. I will see if I have picture of the 210EXT and respond about fuses. Too lazy to pull mine out (in the middle of the cart).

But Ray can get you going in some direction. Opps just saw you check power and the PCB...

[RichardH]

Well, I got on the phone with Ray first thing this AM, and it only took a few minutes to determine it was, indeed, a lost cause. Option 1: RMA with the seller, since it was within 30 days (which should be faster); option 2: get it repaired / replaced under warranty.

In fairness to Everlast, some details emerged... while the welder and parts were unmistakably brand new, the carton had clearly been shipped several times. It turns out to have been ordered via Amazon Prime, but from a merchant that sells refurbished goods and returned products (not an Everlast dealer). Meaning that it also didn't come with a warranty - certainly not worth the ~15% savings in my opinion.

So, in a twisted way, I'm glad it was DOA - otherwise I would have discovered much too late that I didn't have a warranty. Now I'm trying to shave time off the refund process so I can order a replacement from Everlast instead (who is unfortunately out of stock...).

Richard

[RichardH]

Hoorah! The new 210EXT just arrived - I bought this one direct from Everlast instead of through Amazon. So far, so good, running TIG beads on 1/4" steel.

Given the front-panel selector for DC+ / DC- / AC, I presume the work clamp hookup never needs to be switched - it stays in the "+" (left) port, correct?

Cheers,
Richard

[DaveO]

Yes, electrode is typically negative. There are some exceptions, but for the most part, electrode negative.

[Rambozo]

They should re-label the ports since it has a polarity switch. You can download the manual to check your connections. I'm sure you have it correct if you have put enough power out to do 1/4" plate. Have fun.

[Shaggy]

Unless, of course, opening the unit is a warranty violation, in which case I did no such thing.

Richard, now that's just funny.

Man, I can't believe you have waited all that time to receive your 210. That would have driven me nuts.

Steve