thanks! I bent the tubing with a bender I made using the pro-tools 105 dies it is sturdy enough to hold my welder since in my case it does not move far, I currently use a 25' weldcraft crafter series cs310 torch so it reaches most jobs with no problem I also put a 25' ground on also. the tig machine is a powertig 210EXT and the other is a powerplasma 80s.