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Kempy 30A fitted to MTS250S 06-21-2014, 07:46 PM
Kempy First weld with 30A Spool Gun... 06-21-2014, 07:57 PM
Kempy Final fit of EURO handle and... 06-21-2014, 08:08 PM
TheGary Nice job on the retrofit. I... 06-21-2014, 09:49 PM
Kempy The Everlast spool gun worked... 06-21-2014, 11:55 PM
TheGary sounds like Everlast needs to... 06-24-2014, 01:05 PM
Yofish Atta boy Kempy! You now have... 06-22-2014, 05:28 PM
Kempy Yofish This was a good fine... 06-23-2014, 11:41 AM
TheGary Kempy, is yours set up like... 06-23-2014, 12:19 PM
Kempy The MTS250S uses the wire... 06-23-2014, 05:47 PM
TheGary Kempy, where did you find a... 06-24-2014, 12:27 PM
Kempy I found it on Kijiji looked... 06-24-2014, 02:20 PM
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    Default 30A fitted to MTS250S

    I fitted a 30A to my MTS250S to use .045 wire and .062 it works just fine thanks to Yofish to tell me which 30A to buy. Cut the end off the power and put it on to the EURO end just and a brass fitting to join then together. Cut the plug off and rewired it to the MTS250S plug. Set the welder to old spec's and did a test run adjusted the setting and welded heaver aluminum come out just fine and the gun did not even get hot.
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    First weld with 30A Spool Gun set on Synergic Spool, aluminum used 4043 .045
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    Second weld with voltage up 1.5V
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    Cleaned with wire brush.
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    Final fit of EURO handle and 30A spool gun.
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    I used the original gas fitting and got a Y manifold with shut off valves on it. One is for the 30A and the other for the welder at the back for the Tig and Mig. Spool gun has 30 foot line can go a long way around the shop.
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    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
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    Nice job on the retrofit. I am wanting to buy a 250S myself. I take it that the spool gun from everlast will not take .045 wire? If that is so I might have to do a retrofit myself. I have used nothing but .045 wire in my spoolmatic 3. I have done some pretty thin stuff with it and like yofish, I believe The .045 gives better control.
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    The Everlast spool gun worked just fine but could not drive the .045 4043 aluminum easily like the 30A needs the drive rollers from a 30A to keep it from slipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    The Everlast spool gun worked just fine but could not drive the .045 4043 aluminum easily like the 30A needs the drive rollers from a 30A to keep it from slipping.
    sounds like Everlast needs to make some new style drive rolls for their spool gun. Then the retrofit might not be needed. Unless of course a person already owns a perfectly good spool gun already . which is the case many times with customers that have been welding for some time. Also lets face it sometimes it just doesn't pay to reinvent the wheel when an outstanding product already exists and is widely used.
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    miller spoolmatic 3 spool gun with 100ft ext.
    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
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    2016 Everlast 250EX
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    2015 Everlast MTS250S
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    Miller xtreme 12VS wire feeder
    Linde CM 85 shape cutter

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    Same drive rolls that fit the miller guns up to the 200 will/should fit.

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    Atta boy Kempy! You now have a REAL aluminum welding machine. Excellent job.

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    Yofish
    This was a good fine for $300.00 the 30A is so smooth and it did not even get hot at 220A and 25V welding aluminum for 10 minutes yesterday forgot to take picture's of the job. The MTS250S ran like a dream.
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    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    Yofish
    This was a good fine for $300.00 the 30A is so smooth and it did not even get hot at 220A and 25V welding aluminum for 10 minutes yesterday forgot to take picture's of the job. The MTS250S ran like a dream.
    Kempy, is yours set up like Yofish where the 30A wire speed dial does not work at the gun?
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    miller spoolmatic 3 spool gun with 100ft ext.
    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
    thermal arc 250 GTS inverter
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    2015 Everlast MTS250S
    Miller 30A spool Gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGary View Post
    Kempy, is yours set up like Yofish where the 30A wire speed dial does not work at the gun?
    The MTS250S uses the wire speed on the gun and it is a 10K pot and the MTS250S uses a 10K pot to run the SM200 Spool Gun on the side of it. The 30A was a very ease hookup just had to get the wires diagram for both and rewire the plug and put the power line on the Euro connector. If you need the wiring diagrams I have them.
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    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    The MTS250S uses the wire speed on the gun and it is a 10K pot and the MTS250S uses a 10K pot to run the SM200 Spool Gun on the side of it. The 30A was a very ease hookup just had to get the wires diagram for both and rewire the plug and put the power line on the Euro connector. If you need the wiring diagrams I have them.
    Nice, I would like the wire diagrams if its not too much trouble. I won't be doing the retrofit for a while but I would like the diagrams so I have them when the time comes. I am in the middle of revamping my shop now. So between work that comes in and working on the shop its pretty busy.
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    Miller 302 gas drive
    millermatic 200 mig
    miller spoolmatic 3 spool gun with 100ft ext.
    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
    thermal arc 250 GTS inverter
    2016 Everlast 250EX
    miller tig cooler
    2015 Everlast MTS250S
    Miller 30A spool Gun
    Miller xtreme 12VS wire feeder
    Linde CM 85 shape cutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempy View Post
    Yofish
    This was a good fine for $300.00 the 30A is so smooth and it did not even get hot at 220A and 25V welding aluminum for 10 minutes yesterday forgot to take picture's of the job. The MTS250S ran like a dream.
    Kempy, where did you find a 30A for $300? That is a steel for that gun.
    Miller 302 gas drive
    millermatic 200 mig
    miller spoolmatic 3 spool gun with 100ft ext.
    2014 Everlast PP60S plasma
    thermal arc 250 GTS inverter
    2016 Everlast 250EX
    miller tig cooler
    2015 Everlast MTS250S
    Miller 30A spool Gun
    Miller xtreme 12VS wire feeder
    Linde CM 85 shape cutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGary View Post
    Kempy, where did you find a 30A for $300? That is a steel for that gun.
    I found it on Kijiji looked for a will then one came up. Have to put in 30A, Spoolgun, Spool Gun, or Miller Spoolmate 30A.
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    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
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    Yofish
    As you were saying they make a good tool then change it plus it cost more and it is normal is not as good.
    I like the 30A old style as you recommended to look for with the barrel that you can adjust and the tip you can do also had to make the tool for tip removal myself cheaper then buying one.
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    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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