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    I just ordered my Everlast tig cooler and wanted to get the Weldcraft CS310 to go with it for my 325EXT. Does anyone know what I would need to buy in order to hook everything up? It looks like arc-zone sells B-size to quick disconnect water fittings (item #CK-QDWAP) as well as B-size to quick disconnect gas fittings (item #CK-QDGAP). I have the Everlast cart and from other posts that I've read, I'll need to get some extra water hose. What else would I need?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Depending on the torch package your ordered, you will need a DINSE connector to 7/8" left hand thread for the power. Not sure what gas and water ends Weldcraft comes with since they are now Miller. More than likely it will be 5/8" left and right for the feed water and gas. You will have to convert that to Everlast QC fittings for your cooler. I heard the new Everlast gas fitting are going to 5/8, but some are hose barb, so you might have to mix and match a little bit.
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    Thanks Rambozo, I did find a Dinse connector that I think will work at arc-zone (Item #MIL-195377). I've wondered many times about converting the QC fitting for the gas to a 5/8, it seems that most off the shelf torches have that fitting instead of the QC connector . Same with the cooler connections, why not 5/8? Absolutely love the welder, just the connectors I don't like.

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    It seems every company has played around with some kind of QC. I think it makes sense for air cooled. However, without sealing valves for both ends, it just doesn't make much sense for water cooled, a mess in the making. I like the gas through DINSE system, but even that is not very common. The 5/8" size is kinda jumbo for little machines, but it is something of a standard, at least in this country.
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    The gas fittings will remain the same on our torches. However, we do offer the CK 5/8 to quick connect coupler for gas and water. 20.00 for two left hand water couplers.
    Plus you can find on our site, extenders too for lengthening water cooler cables and the like. Look under consumables then MISC...this will lead you to all the misc parts. If you don't find it there, some water cooler parts are under the water cooler tab. CK equipment is not listed.

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    Thanks for the info Mark, it looks like from the picture on the website that the water extender lines have the female connector attached on one end and the QC on the other, looks like that could solve two problems in one. I don't need the water couplers if I use the water extender lines right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumaichi View Post
    I just ordered my Everlast tig cooler and wanted to get the Weldcraft CS310 to go with it for my 325EXT. Does anyone know what I would need to buy in order to hook everything up? It looks like arc-zone sells B-size to quick disconnect water fittings (item #CK-QDWAP) as well as B-size to quick disconnect gas fittings (item #CK-QDGAP). I have the Everlast cart and from other posts that I've read, I'll need to get some extra water hose. What else would I need?

    Thanks in advance.
    I have this set up you will need the dinse connector with the torch and arc zone sells the adapters for the gas and water lines
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    I put my old CS310 to my 325EXT.

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    used Everlast QT fittings for gas and water

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    Made water line longer after cutting old fitting off it was to short
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    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Thanks Kempy, I didn't realize I might have to trim back the rubber on the Dinse connector. I contacted arc-zone and Scott recommended the following:

    "You should just get the CK Worldwide Dinse Plug (CK-SLWHAT-35), that one has a 6' side hose for the water return." and then he said that I'd need two of the QT water connectors and one of the QT gas connectors. I'll probably also get one of the extensions for the cold water line from Everlast.

    I think that should do it . The support on this forum is AWESOME, every time I have an issue or question you guys are always so willing to help out. Thanks again for everyone's support helping out a newbie .

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    Kumaichi
    I also put color heat shrink on the ends and color tape also to match each fitting gas on the 325EXT I used yellow.
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    Everlast PowerTig 325EXT (Canada)
    Everlast Power I Mig 250 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80S (Canada)
    Everlast PowerCool W300 (Canada)
    Everlast PowerMTS 250S Fitted with a 30A Spoolgun(Canada)
    Miller Dynasty 400 wireless(Canada)
    Millermatic 252 plus 30A Spoolgun(Canada)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumaichi View Post
    "You should just get the CK Worldwide Dinse Plug (CK-SLWHAT-35), that one has a 6' side hose for the water return." and then he said that I'd need two of the QT water connectors and one of the QT gas connectors. I'll probably also get one of the extensions for the cold water line from Everlast.
    CK has that connector already with at least the gas Everlast QC fitting installed. I believe you used to just add QD to the part number, but a quick call to CK will confirm what the exact part number is. They might even be able to set you up with the QC water fittings pre-installed as well.
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    I should probably start a new thread for this but does anyone know why coolant would be shooting out of the tig torch? I got the cooler today and hooked up the water cooled torch to make sure everything works, and coolant is just streaming out of the end of the torch. I have it connected like it says in the manual. Blue hose to blue fitting, hose coming out of the Dinse connector to the red fitting and the remaining hose is connected to the gas on the 325EXT. When I turn on the cooler, it shoots water out of the tig torch. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumaichi View Post
    I should probably start a new thread for this but does anyone know why coolant would be shooting out of the tig torch? I got the cooler today and hooked up the water cooled torch to make sure everything works, and coolant is just streaming out of the end of the torch. I have it connected like it says in the manual. Blue hose to blue fitting, hose coming out of the Dinse connector to the red fitting and the remaining hose is connected to the gas on the 325EXT. When I turn on the cooler, it shoots water out of the tig torch. Any ideas?
    Sounds like you have mixed up the gas and water lines. Be sure to flush everything out with clean water then run plenty of dry air through to dry your hoses or you will have no end of contamination problems.
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    I don't think that you read the manually fully about the connections. It shows the correct diagram and refers to the cooler connector colors and where to put the lines. and mentions how to double check your connections. The arrows were meant to show which onces they go to. Some of the earlier coolers had different front end connections so that's the reason the fittings aren't shown. And it also mentions that "some" torches are color coded this way, and mentions BOTH colors being there... ie...CK. That is why it gives several descriptions and how to double check. Was there no paper sticker on the gas line?

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    No paper sticker on the gas line, I got one blue hose and two black hoses. One black hose comes out of Dinse connector, which I connected to the "red" connector on the cooler. The blue hose I connected to the "blue" connector on the cooler, that one seemed straight forward. This is the torch that came with the machine.

    I'll try the compressed air and see what I come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kumaichi View Post
    No paper sticker on the gas line, I got one blue hose and two black hoses. One black hose comes out of Dinse connector, which I connected to the "red" connector on the cooler. The blue hose I connected to the "blue" connector on the cooler, that one seemed straight forward. This is the torch that came with the machine.

    I'll try the compressed air and see what I come up with.
    I bet the particular torch you have used black for the water and blue for the argon, instead of the paper sticker. It's always best to double check the lines. That is one nice thing about threaded connectors, water is left hand thread while gas is right hand.
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    My thinking exactly, a right hand thread can't go into a left hand nut.

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    Rambozo, you sir are correct! I slid the handle down on the torch and sure enough, blue line is the argon. Thanks for all the help!

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    Depending on if you can swap them at the torch, you might want to do that, since your blue hose has been contaminated. Then you won't have to worry about getting the hose spotless. Just make sure you clean out the gas passages in the torch, while you have the hoses off. Plus then you will have a color match that makes more sense to you.
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    That's a GREAT idea. Having the blue line connected to the "blue" output on the cooler would certainly make sense to me. I'll see if I can switch them at the torch so in the future I won't be so confused .

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