alluminum with I-rmig 140e

[performance]

The spool gun hooks up to where the mig gun goes on our units. That's probably why it was done that way.

[Yofish]

Yofish, From what I see with my MTS250 all that needs to be done to a 30A gun is to put a Dinse connector on the power cable and buy a 7 pin connector from everlast. Then just follow the wire schematics for both the 30a and MTS to connect it. I think it will even work with the synergic function. I am not sure why Kempy hooked his power lead to the euro mig gun connection. The 30A should hook up just like an Everlast spool gun does. Unless I am missing something .

Thanks for that, it makes sense. The thing is, when hooking up the Miller feeder the only thing that needs to happen is to take control of contactor. The gas, wire speed and run-in are all controlled at the feeder. Normally the feeder gets its power from the power source but I've plugged them into the wall many times. It wouldn't surprise me that there wasn't a tap on some transformer inside the Everlast but I don't think Everlast publishes schematics to see that far ahead, not to mention that they aren't gonna help you in that regard.

I have friends that can tell me how much they do or don't like their Miller or Lincoln pulsed mig machines on AL but I'll be damned if there is anyone on this planet that can tell me about an Everlast machine!

[TheGary]

The spool gun hooks up to where the mig gun goes on our units. That's probably why it was done that way.

Oh, I did not know that. The MTS manual shows a spool gun connected to the dinse port closest to the mig gun port. It must be a mistake and that explains some of the confusion I was having. In that case I am going to need one of those euro port fittings. Your site does not show them available to buy. At least not that I can find. I find that a little strange to have to remove the mig gun to run the spool gun, a dinse port would allow the owner to keep both systems readily avaiable to use at a moments notice. I have my MM200 setup that way. Turn on an argon bottle and Im ready to go.

[Yofish]

Oh, I did not know that. The MTS manual shows a spool gun connected to the dinse port closest to the mig gun port. It must be a mistake and that explains some of the confusion I was having. In that case I am going to need one of those euro port fittings. Your site does not show them available to buy. At least not that I can find. I find that a little strange to have to remove the mig gun to run the spool gun, a dinse port would allow the owner to keep both systems readily avaiable to use at a moments notice. I have my MM200 setup that way. Turn on an argon bottle and Im ready to go.

Actually, if you look at what I did with the imig200 you can use the pin connector to do everything you want. The small problem is that at least on the 200, the wire speed pot does not put out enough voltage to turn the motor in the 30A up to full speed, hence, I can't use .035 wire 'cause not enough comes out. No biggy, I'm a 3/64ths guy anyway. The way the machine and the gun balances makes it so that I don't come to the end of the wire speed as it is.

One just needs to find the right wires to butt into. In my case, I terminated the internal wire feed because I have no use for it.The 30A will run whatever wire (except flux) that I need. I did not try and use the pot in the gun because it has three wires going back to the stock Miller setup and I don't know enough.

One can find the Euro connection on ebay, that's the way I originally thought about setting it up but I got impatient and the gas supply was unnecessary with the 30A. Unless you think that you'll never use the 30A on a Miller machine and cut the Amphenol off, you'll need the female Amphenol to adapt to the Everlast pin connector. I had a pigtail already and of course, Miller charges an OBSCENE amount for one. If you leave enough tail after the Amphenol, you could always mend it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Euro-Central...item5d326e6f7c

[TheGary]

Yes, I saw that on ebay a while back. I sent a message to the seller asking if it came with the plastic cover/protector and the screw on plastic nut. He seemed puzzled at what I was wanting. So I do not want it without the rest of it. Thanks for taking the time to help. I do have the original mig gun that came with the unit that I could rob the connector from but I kind of want to keep it for a spare.

I went to the MTS manual again and it specifically shows the spool gun power lead conecting to the Dinse port next to the mig gun port. I wonder if this configuration would still work. If the euro mig port and the dinse port are electrically the same it should work. If the dinse port is cc in stick mode and cv in spool gun mode. The only way I would know is to try it, unless Everlast can tell me.

[TheGary]

I am sure a spool gun will work off the + Dinse port. I think Everlast uses the Mig gun port for all their spool guns. Rather than have one specially set up for the MTS welders they just leave it on the mig port to stream line their products. I has to be electricaly the same because you have to put the work clamp in the + terminal to run flux core wire when you reverse the polarity at the mig gun connection.

[Yofish]

"The only way I would know is to try it, unless Everlast can tell me." Ha, ha! C'mon Gary, we know the answer to that!

[Yofish]

I am sure a spool gun will work off the + Dinse port. I think Everlast uses the Mig gun port for all their spool guns. Rather than have one specially set up for the MTS welders they just leave it on the mig port to stream line their products. I has to be electricaly the same because you have to put the work clamp in the + terminal to run flux core wire when you reverse the polarity at the mig gun connection.

Gary, I can't follow what you say, but as you say, give it a try. No matter, there is a way to do it the question is the best way. Maybe us 'out of spec' guys will force Everlast to acknowledge a need sometime forward! I'm convinced they are flat out missing a good opportunity to expand into an area that they are obviously absent from.

[TheGary]

Im going to be ordering a250EX in the near future, I will order a 7 pin connector for the MTS at that time . I am going to use the + Dinse port for power to the 30A.

Yofish, remember that Everlast is still in its infancy compared to the blue and red machines. I think they are doing a good job. They can not concentrate on every aspect of welding at once. I am sure they will get around to some of the more nitch markets for their products. I agree that their is a large aluminum fab industry that their products could with minor mods corner or at least be a major player in. They have the best duty cycles of any machines in their classes and that alone makes them appealing , at least to me. I also believe that they are justified in not giving schematics for their welders. Its not like the old days where a transformer is a transformer. I believe they have some proprietary designs to protect in this fast moving change in welder designs today. I think on a one to one basis they might be willing to help those of use with special needs for their products but remember once things are on the web they are there for ever and anyone. They are in the stage of gaining acceptance in an industry that is very closed minded and the hobby/light fab industry is the place where people will give them a chance, if they had tried to get into the commercial, industrial, pipeline industries first they would have hit a brick wall. I believe they are getting into the commercial part now with a few inroads to the rest. Be patient and you might find yourself or some colleague being a consultant in a nitch market.