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    Here's a guy who upgraded his Everlast OEM 26 Euro torch to a CK Worldwide 26 Flex torch with an UltraFlex cable, and a Clamshell Dinse connector, which is undoubtedly a little more costly than the new Everlast line of super flex hoses and comparable RotoHead torch stuff which approximates the CK stuff, especially because the Everlast assemblies integrate the Dinse/gas connector into the hose, so it's not a separate item like the CK clamshell connector is. But, again, the separated Dinse connector could be a benefit to some.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7fSrTyAwWs&t=3s

    Anyway, I think what you'll probably be doing with the stubby lens and a generic 26 Flex torch will be nearly as good and certainly cheaper.

    But the video helps in showing the differences in the assemblies.

    I shortened the gas QuickConnect line out to the torch on my CK stuff and did away with the CK compression fitting to the 9mm QuickConnect adapter, with a more elegant solution via a barbed/9mm QuickConnect fitting and a small Oetiker clamp. Everlast sells those too, but they're not needed with an Everlast OEM torch assembly, as theirs don't use a compression fitting-to-9mm adapter.

    I'd post a photo showing both, but the forum seems to be having trouble hosting photos at the moment, so I'l just post a link to the Everlast TIG part itself.

    https://www.everlastgenerators.com/p...ln®-style-1pk
    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian View Post
    Here's a guy who upgraded his Everlast OEM 26 Euro torch to a CK Worldwide 26 Flex torch with an UltraFlex cable, and a Clamshell Dinse connector, which is undoubtedly a little more costly than the new Everlast line of super flex hoses and comparable RotoHead torch stuff which approximates the CK stuff, especially because the Everlast assemblies integrate the Dinse/gas connector into the hose, so it's not a separate item like the CK clamshell connector is. But, again, the separated Dinse connector could be a benefit to some.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7fSrTyAwWs&t=3s
    Thanks Christian, that's helpful. I seem to have the smaller flexible hose as I have the removable switch that is held on with wire ties. Not sure if the hose is as good as CK, but I'll strip everything off of it and see how it works. Hopefully this will buy me some time in upgrading to the 1525HSF FX.

    I received those collets in the mail yesterday! Thank you very much sir, they will be put to good use.

    I saw this video playing after the above, I've wondered if this is Mark that does these videos? Sounds like him on the phone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKkbdqI7cw8

    Quote Originally Posted by christian View Post
    Anyway, I think what you'll probably be doing with the stubby lens and a generic 26 Flex torch will be nearly as good and certainly cheaper.
    Indeed, I appreciate you pointing that out for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by christian View Post
    I shortened the gas QuickConnect line out to the torch on my CK stuff and did away with the CK compression fitting to the 9mm QuickConnect adapter, with a more elegant solution via a barbed/9mm QuickConnect fitting and a small Oetiker clamp. Everlast sells those too, but they're not needed with an Everlast OEM torch assembly, as theirs don't use a compression fitting-to-9mm adapter.
    I think I may want to do the same in the future when I upgrade my torch.

    Alan

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    Hey,

    All the better then, if it's not a 26 Euro torch.

    And if it IS a red colored 26 hose, then it's probably a more flexible 26 hose than was standard OEM from before Everlast improved their hoses, I think.

    So yeah, those 1/8" wedge collets are good if you ever have much TIG to do near the 200 amp output, otherwise 3/32" tungsten can probably do everything else, even lap joints on utility knife razor blades.


    Quote Originally Posted by aland View Post
    Thanks Christian, that's helpful. I seem to have the smaller flexible hose as I have the removable switch that is held on with wire ties. Not sure if the hose is as good as CK, but I'll strip everything off of it and see how it works. Hopefully this will buy me some time in upgrading to the 1525HSF FX.
    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

    www.youtube.com/newjerusalemtimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by christian View Post
    And if it IS a red colored 26 hose, then it's probably a more flexible 26 hose than was standard OEM from before Everlast improved their hoses, I think.
    Mine looks like the typical red fire retardent flex hose, but the slightly larger 200 amp size, opposed to the 150 amp size.

    I will shamefully admit, I didn't know if these hoses are made of some type of Chinesium fire retardant cloth, I haven't taken it all apart yet, but opened it to see how the it was assembled. As I said, the cable cover seems more to contain the hose and switch cable, IMO, rather than protecting the stuff, but with the electrical cable for the switch, I will use the cover whenever I use the switch, It will only cover 12' after I get a longer hose, but am primarily planning to tack with it.

    I will certainly put those collets to use.

    For extra credit, is there an inexpensive roto-flex head to fit the EV26 ?

    Alan

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    Yeah,

    I don't believe there is a Roto-locking torch in a 26 air-cooled style from Everlast, CK Worldwide, or WeldTec. So, a 26 Flex is the next-best thing, I think.

    So, yeah, I believe any new, red-colored OEM hose from Everlast is better in flexibility that their old, black-colored OEM hoses.

    So, no, you or I still can't seem to buy an inexpensive, sole Roto-locking TIG torch from Everlast, CK Worldwide, of WeldTec, as they all sell them only as a torch/hose assembly, or as two or three main parts: the head, the body, and the handle. Which for CK and WeldTec add up to over $100, just for a Roto TIG torch, if I recall correctly. Of course, the Everlast solution, with it's integrated Dinse/Gas QuickConnector is the best value of the three Roto Torch Assemblies.

    Otherwise, I've often suspected that there's a marketing conspiracy in that, somehow... maybe due to some sourcing agreement. But I'd think there certainly is a market for a generic Roto-Loc TIG torch priced at up to around $39, which would still be fare more profitable for an Asian producer that currently produces and delivers typical TIG torches, like a 26 Flex, to North America for under $20, even though cost of production is undoubtedly higher, by a few bucks.

    I'd certainly buy one for $39, with free delivery, and tax-free.

    https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Torch...s=26+TIG+torch

    https://www.amazon.com/Warrior-Flexi...s=26+TIG+torch


    Quote Originally Posted by aland View Post
    Mine looks like the typical red fire retardent flex hose, but the slightly larger 200 amp size, opposed to the 150 amp size.

    I will shamefully admit, I didn't know if these hoses are made of some type of Chinesium fire retardant cloth, I haven't taken it all apart yet, but opened it to see how the it was assembled. As I said, the cable cover seems more to contain the hose and switch cable, IMO, rather than protecting the stuff, but with the electrical cable for the switch, I will use the cover whenever I use the switch, It will only cover 12' after I get a longer hose, but am primarily planning to tack with it.

    I will certainly put those collets to use.

    For extra credit, is there an inexpensive roto-flex head to fit the EV26 ?

    Alan
    Last edited by christian; 01-03-2018 at 11:24 PM.
    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

    www.youtube.com/newjerusalemtimes

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    OK,

    I'll be sending these two wedge collets out to Matt, for use with his 255EXT.
    Everlast 210 EXT (2015)

    www.youtube.com/newjerusalemtimes

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