Did i-Tig 201 have points changed recently?

[aland]

I opened my i-Tig 201 to check the points.

This is the manual I'm using, I purchased my machine in December of 2017 and it was QA'd in June of 2017.

This is the manual I'm using:

https://www.everlastgenerators.com/s...-TIG%20201.pdf

On the last page it states:

4) Locate the HF board located toward the front of the unit. This board is mounted under the top metal pan
and the points should be visible from the left side (side determined by facing the front of the unit). The
points will have two carbon contacts hanging under the bottom of the metal pan. These will be held in place
by two brass nuts that are used to lock the contacts in place. Check the point gap with either a feeler gauge
by sliding it between the points. Access may be tight, but try several angles to get the feeler gauge in be-
tween the points. The gap should be set to anywhere between .030“ and .045”, with .035” being preferred.

However I have no HF board, AFAICT, my points are located on the motherboard. There is no locking nut that I can see in there, and even if there was it would appear that the motherboard would need to be taken out.

I can see what appears to be a small copper screw, but again, no lock nut, and that copper screw looks near impossible to get to from the outside without taking the entire motherboard out.

Has the motherboard changed on the i-Tig 201?

Am I using the wrong manual?

Alan

[performance]

Well, the 201 manual was an update of the 200 manual. That was one item that was not mentioned to me when we were updating the manual (the location and basic design had changed in the newer model).

[aland]

Well, the 201 manual was an update of the 200 manual. That was one item that was not mentioned to me when we were updating the manual (the location and basic design had changed in the newer model).

What does this mean for me Mark?

Is there a different procedure to set the point gap?

As I said, it looks like there's a very tiny copper screw that could be to adjust it, but there is no locking nut on there, mine looks completely different than the manual.

Is the gap settable on the recent models of i-Tig 201?

Alan

[performance]

Same basic setup and gap settings at any rate.

[aland]

Same basic setup and gap settings at any rate.

If I call support will they have a unit there to look at?

I don't see a way to get to the points, so would like to have them explain it. Is that possible?

I'd try and take a pic, but it doesn't seem possible to upload a pic, I was trying to insert one here, but the site always gives an error with an ! by the upload.

If I call the support number do they have an i-Tig 201 to look at?

Alan

[zoama]

I'd try and take a pic, but it doesn't seem possible to upload a pic, I was trying to insert one here, but the site always gives an error with an ! by the upload.


Alan

The error is due to file size. Keep cropping or resizing until it works. There doesn't seem to be any interest in website maintenance here.

[aland]

Well, the 201 manual was an update of the 200 manual. That was one item that was not mentioned to me when we were updating the manual (the location and basic design had changed in the newer model).

Mark,

When I look at the i-Tig 200 manual from the Everlast site. under Manuals, Power i-TIG 200 (Analog) (Jan 2011 to Late 2015), there is no information that I can find in the old manual.

Under Manuals, Power i-TIG 201 Digital (Late 2015 to Present), Page 30, that is for the newer machine, and the picture of the points, mine looks kinda similar, left of the points. But the points are mounted on two slightly taller/thinner pieces with the points on them. It looks like there is a real tiny copper screw, as I mentioned, but it is not easily accessible without removing the motherboard, AFAICT. If so, let me know.

I first was trying to find out, did the i-Tig 201 change ? And if so, are the points adjustable?

I wouldn't mind opening mine, but if I do I would like someone on the phone to explain it. If I open it I will try to get a pic, but support should have one.

Alan

[Rambozo]

What does the gap measure? That would be the first thing, before you worry about how to make an adjustment.

[aland]

The error is due to file size. Keep cropping or resizing until it works. There doesn't seem to be any interest in website maintenance here.

Considering the image size is 550x181 I'm not sure that is the case. I have tried to scale an image down thinking the same thing, but no go. I am fairly literate when it comes to online sites, but the Everlast site here seems to present problems to me.

Alan,
I just said that the process was basically the same. That means they are adjustable.

Then I'm questioning your memory, or that you don't have an i-Tig 201 in front of you.

Do they have an i-Tig 201 in support so I can talk intelligently with them about how to set the points?

The i TIG 201 did not change since it was brought out. I thought that this was already addressed in my earlier comments in post 3. The points and design did change from the 200 to the 201. That was the point. Tech support should be able to help you. But why are you trying to adjust the points at this point of ownership?

I guess you're not reading what I'm typing. I'm telling you the points are different, period. I hope you understand that last statement.

What does the gap measure? That would be the first thing, before you worry about how to make an adjustment.

Good question, I can't get any standard thickness gauge inside to measure, it is impossible to get a standard one down there. The only way I can see to measure and set the points is to disassemble the machine and take the motherboard out. My machine is different than Mark has worked with, and it is not the same as depicted in the manual.

Maybe the phone will be easier if Everlast has a physical machine in front of them, rather than telling me what my machine does or looks like.

Alan

[performance]

Considering the image size is 550x181 I'm not sure that is the case. I have tried to scale an image down thinking the same thing, but no go. I am fairly literate when it comes to online sites, but the Everlast site here seems to present problems to me.



Then I'm questioning your memory, or that you don't have an i-Tig 201 in front of you.

Do they have an i-Tig 201 in support so I can talk intelligently with them about how to set the points?



I guess you're not reading what I'm typing. I'm telling you the points are different, period. I hope you understand that last statement.



Good question, I can't get any standard thickness gauge inside to measure, it is impossible to get a standard one down there. The only way I can see to measure and set the points is to disassemble the machine and take the motherboard out. My machine is different than Mark has worked with, and it is not the same as depicted in the manual.

Maybe the phone will be easier if Everlast has a physical machine in front of them, rather than telling me what my machine does or looks like.

Alan

Alan,
Not sure what else I can say here. I don't think you are reading what I am writing either! lol. I allowed that the points changed from the 200 itig to the 201 itig when I also told you that the manual was revised using the 200 manual, and that the point change was not highlighted to us when the manual was written so the 200 information was kept instead of the 201. That does not mean the 201 points have changed at all since the introduction of the 201 but it was incorrect information in the manual due to the advanced writing of the manual before the product was in hand. Still, though all points in our units are adjustable. If you have a screw, then you have adjustable points. Points by their nature have to be adjustable in some form or fashion if you have them.

I asked you for what reason you were wanting to adjust them, and you did not answer.

It's immaterial whether tech support has one in front of them. We have over 40 units in our lineup. They can't keep that many units open or directly in front of them. They do train in the factory and work on units and hold schematics. They will know what to do if I don't.

Also, not sure whether you are using the "go advanced" feature, but that works for me, if I resize without issues.
And no one's site is fool proof. Welding web has been down for days. And that is their livelihood completely.