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    Trackmaster,
    I am sorry, you have misunderstood me. I have never said you didn't have cleaning issues. I Never said anything about not having issues in your pictures. We have recognized the problem, working on the solution, made apology for putting not only you but other customers through a rigorous questioning so we could eliminate other possible issues. You may know your stuff, but we cannot assume or take you at your word or anyones for that matter since so many "experts" tend to overlook the basics in trouble shooting...and that is generally where the problem is found...Not in this case, but our technique resolves a lot of problems. We have calls daily from expert customers...no disrespect to them, but they are the hardest to deal with because they know everything, and assume that the problem is the worst, when 9 times out of 10 its a simple issue. Its a human nature thing... I have literally spent hours on the phone trying to convince a customer to check the basics, meanwhile listening to him/her complain that there was something wrong. When they finally let me get to what I need to do to make determination, things are usually resolved quickly. Again, a solution was not found immediately in your case, but was necessary to eliminate all other possible causes. IF we do not go over every possible environmental or operator cause of a malfunction, you end up sending a good unit back and we send you another one. There are many cases where we get back a perfectly functioning unit...used... so we go send it back for phantom repairs complete stripdown. In fact, in your case, we did discover some things that were being done wrong, including setting the unit at about 65% cleaning...Which is not correct. So, even our conversation resulted in uncovering some issues that were even making the problem worse.


    I will try explaining this again so we don't have any hard feelings...
    I gave you Jody's link to show you that indeed this has not been a problem. His video clearly shows WIDE variations in cleaning right down to a small narrow line. The question you asked (according to my interpretation of what you asked) is that you wanted me to restate what was already stated....That this is a new issue. You asked me to clarify about any past and present issues with the 250EX...I showed you the unit Jody purchased in December. It works fine. If you watch, you can see him adjusting the unit while welding...you can see wider versions of etching and narrow versions of etching down to narrow lines. No, it doesn't show the exact settings while he does, but watching the other videos also show small cleaning areas. He does actually give some recommended settings of 35% on the videos...This is where he completes many fine looking welds, but you can see a visible etching. This man welds on Delta aircraft and is an instructor. Believe me if etching was a problem, he would have let me know in short order and it would have been brought out in the video.

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    I have been watching this thread with some curiosity as I just got a 250ex and I will be welding some nice finish aluminum to some capacity. I've checked my serial number and I am not listed under the defective machines, however I too am not sure that I have full range on the balance. I cannot make my etching go away, If I turn the balance the whole way up (clockwise) it balls the electrode, possibly melt it if I went the whole way. Completely Down (counterclockwise) It welds nice but the etching is still there, it seems you can only weld between 12:00 and the minimum. I suppose I will have to check in to the tech guys to see what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmd View Post
    I have been watching this thread with some curiosity as I just got a 250ex and I will be welding some nice finish aluminum to some capacity. I've checked my serial number and I am not listed under the defective machines, however I too am not sure that I have full range on the balance. I cannot make my etching go away, If I turn the balance the whole way up (clockwise) it balls the electrode, possibly melt it if I went the whole way. Completely Down (counterclockwise) It welds nice but the etching is still there, it seems you can only weld between 12:00 and the minimum. I suppose I will have to check in to the tech guys to see what is going on.
    After I posted this I had an idea, I started to slightly tweak my argon regulator, and I really thought my argon consumption was high to start with, well I wonder about the accuracy of the reg, I was at 7 like suggested and couldn't make the etching go away, now I am down around 5 and sometimes I can make it disappear completely, mostly its about a 32nd wide but you have to keep rolling and not let the head build up or it will show back up, I think I can handle this, I will have to try it on more jobs.

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    Cmd,

    I have discussed this aspect with trackmaster as well. The longer you stay in one area, the more cleaning action is observed, even at low levels of EP...Argon flow rate does affect cleaning action as well. Argon in particular does have a direct effect on cleaning action. Many people add helium in the mix to reduce cleaning action and speed up welding. A 25% max addition of Helium can reduce cleaning and improve weld penetration and speed. Although 100% argon, as a sole source of shielding is fine.

    People that go from transformer welding to inverter welding often have to retrain themselves because the squarewave action is much more aggressive, and melting is quick and fast...

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    Cmd, thanx for the input regarding the flow rates. I am truly open to any suggestions ideas etc. I did try some flow rate adjustments as well after taking up probably an hours worth of Marks time on the phone, ..... on a saturday late afternoon! ( Now THAT is support you will not often find, on any product anywhere! ). I did not find perhaps quite the degree of improvement as you have, but i will revisit that area again and perhaps be a bit more liberal with my range of adjustments, Thx!

    Now to Mark, ....my friend i will not ever have any hard feelings towards you, in fact i have the utmost respect, as you would not be in the position you are in if you were not an experienced Pro! Your probitive questions and suggestive comments, if read by someone who knows, reveal a welder with a ton of knowledge and experience, ... and I'm not trying to blow sunshine anywhere. It is just a fact. So no worries my friend. I have been a little cranky lately, ..... the heat maybe, ha! But you are a true gentleman, and i value and thank you for your input, again .... a huge plus for Everlast! I really like this company.

    Ok, enough of the love fest d@mit! lol, ..... Mark i totally get where your coming from in regard to going back to the basics, as you are right. In most ANY problem in any field, it's usually right there! Sometimes we all can get a little ahead of ourselves and miss something right in front of us, so again thanx for the reminder. As for travel speed i could not agree with ya more, hangin around in most cases is no bueno. That being said, i guess i could post some live timed vs distance video or something, but i know you will take my word for it, ( just for R&D, on this issue solely to help find a solution ) That with the inverter square wave, AND in particular, a higher ac freq. setting, I can boogie along FAST! ( I'll race ya! ... Kidding The still pic i posted of a straight line bead on a flat piece of 3/16 or so sheet, was done so quickly i had to laugh! I love this thing, ( uh well except the E word! ) !!! Un-real how fast you can travel, and still be getting a good bead profile, and more importantly penetration. Your garden variety X-former machine will leave ya with a narrow tall bead with no penetration.

    So thats just FYI, to help in diagnosis. I really am impressed with everlasts attention to issues, problems, etc. Whether they be individual, a batch etc.
    As for Jody's site, skills, and unique ability to teach in a no nonsense way, He's top shelf all the way! I am a 23 year Airline captain that has never stopped proffessionaly welding since the late 70's. And while i do not fly for Delta, my sister does as a Flt. Attnd for nearly 30 years, and i take great solice that if any welding is done it may be in Jody's hands!

    My welding heydays are behind me, and am a bit uncomfortable reciting my C.V. but I have had the pleasure and honor to weld on numerous military fighter aircraft parts, satellite's, and Nuclear submarine drive systems, as well as many less glamorous, but more fun stuff! I have a few THOUSAND hours of production welding of thin wall 4130 chromoly tubing, that was some of the best fun and experience ever! I'm sure we will get to the bottom of this whether it's me just being stupid ( entirely possible! ) or just a circuit glitch.

    Weld on!
    Last edited by trackmaster; 08-13-2010 at 03:24 AM.

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    Hey Guys,
    I am a total newbie and have a 256 on the way when the new batch comes in but I have been reading and watching everything I can get to pop up on this idiot box on my desk and something popped in my head while I was reading all of these posts. Can the leads be reversed on the the 250 and has anyone tried it? It seems as though the question of balance in AC would be reversed and all of the adjustment on the pot would work backwards so cleaning could be eliminated totally. since I have not gotten my unit yet I don't know if water or gas lines go through the connector cores or not so it might be a stupid idea but if you can't make yourself sound stupid on your first post then when can you?
    For trackmaster's benefit I can vouch for his welds. I have one of his frames with a TT500 yamaha stuffed in it and it works great! It spit me on the ground in Ocala FL in April and broke a few bones but I will be back at it when it cools off and the racing starts again. The bike endoed twice and the frame is still as straight as a string! Wish I had a video of it as I was told I crash with "flair". I will post something on the introductions forum with some background later and thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts here. It really helps a guy like me.
    Scott in Tallahassee

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    If the AC balance pot does acually range from 10 to 90 percent, then there should be no benefit in reversing the leads.

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