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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Mike you should have the torch parts today, I bet anyway.

    Look at the position of the gas holes in the torch head relative to the collet body and back cap, let me know what you think.
    Hey Ray,

    Will do, will test it today. Been cutting and MIGing all morning, might as well TIG this afternoon.

    Thanks again.
    Mike R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Mike is on vacation this week. And yes I know he received it. He hasn't had time to check anything out. If he pops in here, it is because he is bored. lol.

    What I think is the problem, is that the cons were not matching the torch itself. The other possiblitiy is that the threads on the torch OR collet did not stop where it should. I discovered on some of our trafimet syle torches, some "over machining" on some collet bodies allowing the collet body to be screwed in too far and the back cap would not go down far enough to seal...But this factory is not the same as the 20 factory...so I doubt there is a relation, but it could be possible...But the simple remedy was NOT to screw the collet body in all the way and tighten the back cap up onto the collet until it sealed. The collet body would be held secure and no problem would occur at all. Its possible that the collet bodies on the WP series were overmachined and by leaving them a little loose, the shielding issue might be resolved, by tightening the backcap down further. We can work with the factory I am sure to get it resolved...but all this takes time, and then checking and rechecking. Like we said, the Canadian torches (which our shipment came at the same time) were fine overall, last I knew.
    Mark,
    Looks like you are on the right track with some revisions. Double check the machining specs for the factory. The other thing could be the white seal between the cup and the torch body. It may be too thick, which would cause the same issue. Keep me posted on any changes.


    Quote Originally Posted by everlastsupport View Post
    Hey Mark,

    Only 7:30AM and bored already. The cold weather is killing me (you know I have thin blood).

    I attempted to save "Steve's CK thread" making this one, poor Steve's thread became a mess (beyond hi-jacked). Sorry Steve.

    Miles did send the torch and I might run up to Welder Services today for gas for a friend. If I do I "might" buy consumables for it since I only have the bare torch (hard to test it that way). But depends on timing and Ray also has WP-20 consumables on the way to me for it.

    Don't think I have talked to Rugar, but Miles and I have talk a few times and it seemed to be a bad torch.
    Mike,

    Make sure to buy a standard collet body and a gas lens, both the correct size for the tungsten you will be using.
    I didn't get a chance to try out a gas lens on the torch I sent you, as I didn't think about it untill the replacement torch showed up and had a similar gas issue. With a gas lens, the torch welds like butter.
    Let me know how it goes.

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    I tried both the standard collet body and a gas lens on the 20 torch I bought here in Canada and neither seemed to give gas coverage. Hooked up the big 17 and it worked fine.

    Chuck

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