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    That would be fine. You can talk with someone in the office. I believe your unit is out of warranty so I nor anyone else can send you cons unless it is approved from there (and they will have to be shipped from there as well). The reason it would start is the HF is there to offer encouragement,and it may have enough time to establish the arc. However, the "yellow" you have just described also tells me there is an issue with the torch or consumables.

    What kind of air dryer do you have on your unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    That would be fine. You can talk with someone in the office. I believe your unit is out of warranty so I nor anyone else can send you cons unless it is approved from there (and they will have to be shipped from there as well). The reason it would start is the HF is there to offer encouragement,and it may have enough time to establish the arc. However, the "yellow" you have just described also tells me there is an issue with the torch or consumables.

    What kind of air dryer do you have on your unit?
    When I purchased my unit in January of 2009, it had a 5 year warranty I believe.

    There are two, an industrial grade unit located at the compressor output and the one that comes with the unit.

    Interesting that you mention bad product (torches and consumables) was shipped and that it is probably the issue with my Plasma and then tell me its not an Everlast issue that is covered under warranty...

    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Ken,
    If I remember right, way back, when we had the PT 31 torches, we had some issues with some of the replacement, and stock consumables.
    Quote Originally Posted by performance View Post
    Ken,
    I am taking it back to the consumable issue. Some of the suppliers we had made some goofs in the clearance on those torch consumables. After a while, a few would "wear" in and stop the sputtering....at least that has been my experience. Simply changing one from the same batch might not fix it. The only other possibility that would be a common issue, is the ground clamp has some resistance issues causing the unit to sputter in and out. The changes in the gapping making a difference suggest such a problem.

    But you said initially it worked OK...What was the exact problem before we got you to putz with it? You never said.




    My box has probably 15 total minutes of cutting time and is basically in brand new condition other than it doesn't work...

    So far I'm not getting warm fuzzies...
    Last edited by kenwhite; 02-19-2011 at 12:35 PM.

  3. #43

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    Ken,

    Torches have only a 1 year warranty on them. There's not a OEM company out there selling welders that warranties them for more than that that I am aware of. Some give only a 6 month. You say when you bought your unit we had a 5 year warranty on the unit. We do not have a "hour" based warranty. There is no way we or you for that matter can verify that you have only 15 minutes. While I am sure you would not lie about it, there are those that might...so we offer a calender age time limited warranty. Its up to you to use the unit and put time on it when you get it and report any problems. When you first started this thread you made it seem like the unit was quite old. But I am sure we will work on the issue for you. IF it was the consumables that came with the torch, then it is likely that it is the problem, as they were given as part of a program at that time. Warm fuzzies or not, we are working on your problem and I am sure things will get resolved.

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    I am going to head down to the college and shoot a video. I am also going to measure the DC open circuit voltage at the copper straps and see what is there since it strikes an HF arc OK but will not cut with the DC plasma...

    I thought a couple of years meant two, and I agree, I should have used it as soon as I received it, but like I said, I had some personal issues that forced me to put using it on hold.

    I have all of the brand new consumables that came with it and have not ordered any others from Everlast. Can you tell me what model torch I have and what consumable part #'s I should be looking for?

    Thanks,

    Ken
    Last edited by kenwhite; 02-19-2011 at 03:59 PM.

  5. #45

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    I am glad I went to shoot a video of the arc and to take a few measurements, I found the problem. The big 5W leaded resistor that stands up on the lower front PCB had a cold solder joint. I noticed it moved side-side pretty freely when I went to double check the point gap distance. So I took the board out and fixed the resistor solder joint, plus a few more that looked suspect, and everything works great now.

    I hope I didn't void my warranty...


  6. #46

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    No,
    It won't. Just glad you found it and got it resolved.

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    Mark, can you tell me what model torch I have and what the consumable part #'s are so I have this for reference when I finally start wearing them out?

    Glad I found it too...

    Thanks,

    Ken

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    OK, I searched the internet and it looks like my torch is a LG-75 torch.

    Mark, Ray, Oleg, or anyone else that sells Everlast Plasma cutters, is this correct?

    I don't see any consumables for my torch listed on the Everlast site, so did Everlast quit supporting this torch?

    If so, I'm guessing I will need to find the consumables elsewhere or buy a new torch...

    Can someone please confirm this for me?

    TIA,

    Ken

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    This torch actually predates my involvement with the company.
    But I believe what you want is listed on the top of the page in this link, as HF 80A torch.
    Look at it and let me know if it looks like what you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    This torch actually predates my involvement with the company.
    But I believe what you want is listed on the top of the page in this link, as HF 80A torch.
    Look at it and let me know if it looks like what you have.

    Ray
    http://www.everlastgenerators.com/Pl...cts.php?id=130
    Ray, it is hard for me to tell from the illustrations but it appears that my electrodes are thinner at the center section and my tips are slightly shorter.

    If the HF80A torch was supplied with the yellow Cut50D box, then that is what I probably have.

    I was hoping the picture I posted of my torch would allow easy identification if anyone still had one of these available.

    Thanks Ray.

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    I believe it is the PT 31 x..It predates my involvement too.
    But it was the standard torch shipped on the 50's.

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    The pictures for the PT-31 consumables look different than the consumables I have for mine. If you look closely at my posted picture, you will see the difference.

    Alex told me my Cut50D was upgraded and had an upgraded torch when he shipped it out to me in January of 2009, it was a brand new model.

    I just don't want to spend as lot of $'s for the wrong product...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwhite View Post
    The pictures for the PT-31 consumables look different than the consumables I have for mine. If you look closely at my posted picture, you will see the difference.

    Alex told me my Cut50D was upgraded and had an upgraded torch when he shipped it out to me in January of 2009, it was a brand new model.

    I just don't want to spend as lot of $'s for the wrong product...
    ken

    you may have LG75/80 torch. its 80a rated torch // red handle and blakc hear .. correct?

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    Oleg, see post #29 for his picture.
    Yes, I think it is the LG75?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg View Post
    ken

    you may have LG75/80 torch. its 80a rated torch // red handle and blakc hear .. correct?

    oleg
    Those are the colors of my torch - I posed a picture of it and the consumables.

    Thanks

    EDIT: Thanks Ray

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    Just wanted to let everyone know the Cut50d has been working perfect now that its fixed...


  17. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwhite View Post
    Just wanted to let everyone know the Cut50d has been working perfect now that its fixed...

    So what was the problem with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugar View Post
    So what was the problem with it?
    See below...

    Quote Originally Posted by kenwhite View Post
    I am glad I went to shoot a video of the arc and to take a few measurements, I found the problem. The big 5W leaded resistor that stands up on the lower front PCB had a cold solder joint. I noticed it moved side-side pretty freely when I went to double check the point gap distance. So I took the board out and fixed the resistor solder joint, plus a few more that looked suspect, and everything works great now.

    I hope I didn't void my warranty...


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    Ken,

    Nope you did not void the warranty. The manual states it will for legal reasons (someone getting zapped). I have spoke to you and assure others, you are more than qualified to open the unit.
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    Thanks Mike and the cutter has been working great! I will be cutting some 3/16" thick crusher corners for my TJ later next week so I will try and post a few before/after pictures.
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